Cz 550
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Order one from Wholesale Sports, I know the Calgary store had them in stock not long ago.
Wholesale Sports Usually has them. 375 H&H, 458 Win., 416 Rigby.
http://www.wholesalesports.com/onlinestore/control/category/~category_id=1011001801/~pcategory=10110018
Firing the rifle before it has been properly bedded could result in a cracked stock.
Get it done or be sad!
Have the Gunsmith tune up the trigger and put on a good recoil pad while he's at it.
Good Luck!
http://www.wholesalesports.com/onlinestore/control/category/~category_id=1011001801/~pcategory=10110018
Firing the rifle before it has been properly bedded could result in a cracked stock.
Get it done or be sad!
Have the Gunsmith tune up the trigger and put on a good recoil pad while he's at it.
Good Luck!
Polecat,
All CZs come through London Arms. They can point you toward a dealer close to your location. Otherwise getting one sent out is easy enough, and .375s are easy to find. 416s aren't.
I don't know if N.S. has a sales tax or not, but if so saving that tax buys a lot of postage.
All CZs come through London Arms. They can point you toward a dealer close to your location. Otherwise getting one sent out is easy enough, and .375s are easy to find. 416s aren't.
I don't know if N.S. has a sales tax or not, but if so saving that tax buys a lot of postage.
What are you going to hunt?
The recoil on the .375 H&H is quite mild, inspite of what so many people would tell you. I think most people that tell you about the recoil have little or no actual experience with the caliber.
Like wise, factory .416 Rigby is also quite mild; the CZ-550 is a 9 lb rifle after all, with an excellent stock and nice balance. If you scope the .375 or .416 then you're into a 10 lb rifle.
If you handload the .416 then the recoil can go up a bit, as it is generally factory loaded to low pressure/velocity levels... but stock it's not much different from the .375 H&H.
I have a ZKK-602 in .416 Rem Mag (predecessor of the CZ-550) and a CZ-550 in .458 Lott, plus my buddy has a Ruger M-77 Safari in .416 Rigby and I have fired the Rigby with "full-house" loads. So I have experience firing all of these, as well as .458 Win Mag. The recoil of all of them is exaggerated!!
A Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 with hot loads is much more severe IMHO..., although mathematically speaking the recoil numbers are much below the .375/.416 or the .458's.
In my opinion the thing to do with any of these calibers is buy a good Hornady RN Interbond and handload the thing to modest velocity. Big bullets at medium velocity is the ticket.
The recoil on the .375 H&H is quite mild, inspite of what so many people would tell you. I think most people that tell you about the recoil have little or no actual experience with the caliber.
Like wise, factory .416 Rigby is also quite mild; the CZ-550 is a 9 lb rifle after all, with an excellent stock and nice balance. If you scope the .375 or .416 then you're into a 10 lb rifle.
If you handload the .416 then the recoil can go up a bit, as it is generally factory loaded to low pressure/velocity levels... but stock it's not much different from the .375 H&H.
I have a ZKK-602 in .416 Rem Mag (predecessor of the CZ-550) and a CZ-550 in .458 Lott, plus my buddy has a Ruger M-77 Safari in .416 Rigby and I have fired the Rigby with "full-house" loads. So I have experience firing all of these, as well as .458 Win Mag. The recoil of all of them is exaggerated!!
A Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70 with hot loads is much more severe IMHO..., although mathematically speaking the recoil numbers are much below the .375/.416 or the .458's.
In my opinion the thing to do with any of these calibers is buy a good Hornady RN Interbond and handload the thing to modest velocity. Big bullets at medium velocity is the ticket.
My CZ .375 weighs 10.50 pounds scoped. My 300 grain loads clock 2500 for a calculated recoil of 34 foot pounds.
My CZ .416 Rigby weighs 10.25 scoped and clocks 2350 with my 400 grain load. Again, pretty ordinary stuff but a tiny bit pushier than the factory 410 grain Federal loads. The calculated recoil works out to 54 foot pounds. Maybe it's just my sensitive shoulder but I don't have any trouble telling the difference in recoil. The two rifles are identical except for a Limbsaver on the 416 and Decellerator on the 375. The 375 is a pushover, the 416 won't kill you but is in a different league.
The hot Rigby loads can punch out 68 pounds of recoil at 2600 fps, or almost exactly the same as a 458 Lott at 2300 fps with a 500 grain bullet. I don't own a Lott but will likely get one in a bit. I don't want a CZ USA version so am either looking for a rechamber or a bit more waiting.
My CZ .416 Rigby weighs 10.25 scoped and clocks 2350 with my 400 grain load. Again, pretty ordinary stuff but a tiny bit pushier than the factory 410 grain Federal loads. The calculated recoil works out to 54 foot pounds. Maybe it's just my sensitive shoulder but I don't have any trouble telling the difference in recoil. The two rifles are identical except for a Limbsaver on the 416 and Decellerator on the 375. The 375 is a pushover, the 416 won't kill you but is in a different league.
The hot Rigby loads can punch out 68 pounds of recoil at 2600 fps, or almost exactly the same as a 458 Lott at 2300 fps with a 500 grain bullet. I don't own a Lott but will likely get one in a bit. I don't want a CZ USA version so am either looking for a rechamber or a bit more waiting.
Plan on hunting rabbits and maybe the occasional grounhog... just kidding. I enjoy a yearly moose hunt in NL, have a .308, .303, and a .280, but was looking to treat myself to something a bit more...lively, without dislocating body parts:evil : .
I served 7 months in West Africa with the military, and saw some interesting rifles floating around, but didnt have the opportunity to fire them. I originally was looking into a CZ .375, thinking that the .416 ammo's cost would be prohibitive. Obviously not too easy to find in the local crappy tire, then again .375 arent in the bins either. But, something about a .416...
I served 7 months in West Africa with the military, and saw some interesting rifles floating around, but didnt have the opportunity to fire them. I originally was looking into a CZ .375, thinking that the .416 ammo's cost would be prohibitive. Obviously not too easy to find in the local crappy tire, then again .375 arent in the bins either. But, something about a .416...
Polecat,
.416 Rigby factory ammo costs are pretty rough,Federal is around $180 a box. Handloading will get that down to about $30 with the cheapest bullets and somewhat over $40 with premium bullets. There isn't much around for cheap bullets besides the Speer 350 Magtip. On the other hand, shooting it is a riot.
.416 Rigby factory ammo costs are pretty rough,Federal is around $180 a box. Handloading will get that down to about $30 with the cheapest bullets and somewhat over $40 with premium bullets. There isn't much around for cheap bullets besides the Speer 350 Magtip. On the other hand, shooting it is a riot.
Holy'o jumpin up and down jesu...180 a box?
Maybe for many many shells? Takes about 10-15 to sight in/have fun/ impress friends, hopefully more than twenty in a box... although that leaves me with 5.... Newfoundland Moose... good chances... still prohibitive. Looks like the .375 might get the look, saw one online here Win model 70, looked some nice...
Maybe for many many shells? Takes about 10-15 to sight in/have fun/ impress friends, hopefully more than twenty in a box... although that leaves me with 5.... Newfoundland Moose... good chances... still prohibitive. Looks like the .375 might get the look, saw one online here Win model 70, looked some nice...
Polecat,
No, there's only 20 in a box. Hornady was promising to load it, and probably has by now. They would be a little less. The only factory ammo I ever shot through mine was the box I got with the rifle. Norma brass is about $160 for 50, and they last a long time. Everything about shooting the .416 Rigby is expensive. Barnes TSXs at $70 for fifty are one of the cheaper bullets. You only get about 70 shots out of a pound of powder.
The .375 is a more sensible choice, and actually a great all round choice. Federal is the cheapest ammo I'm aware of at $36 a box. Doubling that price is rather easy with premium ammo. The 3 boxes of Remington I bought today for the brass and boxes were $52 apiece. Lately brass has been hard to find. Handloading will get that down to $20 with Hornadys or $30 with Barnes TSXs.
No, there's only 20 in a box. Hornady was promising to load it, and probably has by now. They would be a little less. The only factory ammo I ever shot through mine was the box I got with the rifle. Norma brass is about $160 for 50, and they last a long time. Everything about shooting the .416 Rigby is expensive. Barnes TSXs at $70 for fifty are one of the cheaper bullets. You only get about 70 shots out of a pound of powder.
The .375 is a more sensible choice, and actually a great all round choice. Federal is the cheapest ammo I'm aware of at $36 a box. Doubling that price is rather easy with premium ammo. The 3 boxes of Remington I bought today for the brass and boxes were $52 apiece. Lately brass has been hard to find. Handloading will get that down to $20 with Hornadys or $30 with Barnes TSXs.
The .375 H&H is the most practical buy. In my case I always wanted a .416 Rem and nearly bought one in 1989, when it was introduced, but I passed the opportunity to buy that rifle (a Rem Model 700 that I saw at Wholesale Sports) and didn't see another one for sale until I stumbled onto the ZKK-602 that I bought.
That rifle was originally a .375 that was rechambered to .416.
My .458 Lott was originally a .458 Win Mag and I had it rechambered. Speaking of which, I gotta build some handloads for it, for spring bear!!
That rifle was originally a .375 that was rechambered to .416.
My .458 Lott was originally a .458 Win Mag and I had it rechambered. Speaking of which, I gotta build some handloads for it, for spring bear!!
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As others have said the 416 Rigby is not going to be cheap for playing with. But the 416 Remington is a little easier on the pocket book. It is about $85/box of 20. But the rifle choices are limited. If you can find a Winchester mod. 70 that is not a bad way to go and I am sure there are some remingtons kicking around in 416. But still not cheap to shoot.
What others have said with the 375 is correct, realitively cheap ammo if you don't reload. And there are a lot more choices for the flavor of rifle that you would like. Plus with the recoil of the 375 you are able to find it in a lighter gun and still be able to shoot it comfortably.
Just make sure the rifle fits properly and enjoy.
Besides everybody needs atleast one 375 H&H in the safe.
What others have said with the 375 is correct, realitively cheap ammo if you don't reload. And there are a lot more choices for the flavor of rifle that you would like. Plus with the recoil of the 375 you are able to find it in a lighter gun and still be able to shoot it comfortably.
Just make sure the rifle fits properly and enjoy.
Besides everybody needs atleast one 375 H&H in the safe.
