CZ-75B vs CZ-85 Combat
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Unregistered,
I've been going through the same issue as yourself after shooting a CZ85 combat. The trigger was great and it shot very well. I also liked the adjustable sights.
Now when I looked into buying one I contacted a seller who seemed to have the best price. The base model was the cheapest, however I think there was some bait and switch going on as the price on the upscale models rose significantly.
CZ75B SA/DA, .9mm, 120mm barrel, 10 shots,
fixed sights, c/w two magazines & case,
Black poly finish New *C$629.00
Nickel finish New *C$689.00
Stainless Steel New *C$865.00 (coming soon)
CZ85 Combat SA/DA, .9mm, 120mm barrel, 10 shots
three dot adj. sights, ambi controls
c/w two magazines & case
Black poly finish New *$749.00
Two Tone finish New *$809.00
Now here's the problem. I can buy a Browning Highpower MKIII for $900 and a stainless (blued look) Sig Sauer P226 for $1175.00
All of a suddent the choice isn't so clear.
If the Sig is as good as everyone says then I'll end up getting one.
I'm still on the fence myself.
I've bought too many rifles lately and have to stop spending. So I have lots of time to look.
Let me know what you decide and why. Thanks.
I've been going through the same issue as yourself after shooting a CZ85 combat. The trigger was great and it shot very well. I also liked the adjustable sights.
Now when I looked into buying one I contacted a seller who seemed to have the best price. The base model was the cheapest, however I think there was some bait and switch going on as the price on the upscale models rose significantly.
CZ75B SA/DA, .9mm, 120mm barrel, 10 shots,
fixed sights, c/w two magazines & case,
Black poly finish New *C$629.00
Nickel finish New *C$689.00
Stainless Steel New *C$865.00 (coming soon)
CZ85 Combat SA/DA, .9mm, 120mm barrel, 10 shots
three dot adj. sights, ambi controls
c/w two magazines & case
Black poly finish New *$749.00
Two Tone finish New *$809.00
Now here's the problem. I can buy a Browning Highpower MKIII for $900 and a stainless (blued look) Sig Sauer P226 for $1175.00
All of a suddent the choice isn't so clear.
If the Sig is as good as everyone says then I'll end up getting one.
I'm still on the fence myself.
I've bought too many rifles lately and have to stop spending. So I have lots of time to look.
Let me know what you decide and why. Thanks.
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You are absolutely right Epoxy7. There are some sellers in Canada that have an excellent price on the base (blued CZ-75) model, but go up one or two hundred dollars, or a third of the price, on the CZ-85 models, especially with the nicer finish.
While this is fair, it means that the price of your CZ gets jacked up into Glock territory, or even refurbished Sig territory. Also, to remove the trigger and magazine drop impediments on a CZ-75 could cost you money. So the price starts to escalate once you try to make it comparable with other modern Western handgun designs that have good triggers and drop-free mags. You have to mod your CZ-75 or buy a CZ-85 Combat. So is it really a good deal? If you absolutely have to have a particular CZ model, then yes, it is.
I ended up going with a nickle CZ-85 combat. I absolutely had to have nickel, as I hate maintaining bluing, so my choices were limited.
There are some really good prices from Wolverine and Guns and Things on the various CZ-75 models and some of the 85s, so I'd say go ahead and get a CZ from them if you are looking for blued. Once you get up past $800, it makes sense in my view to get a Glock or Sig.
What makes the CZs special is the finish options that are not available on Sigs or Glocks, so if that's a special point for you, then get the CZ. Otherwise, SIG is a great pistol if you want to spend a few hundred more. That is comparing apples and oranges, though, as CZ is a steel pistol designed for 1911-style grip lovers, and the SIGs are polymer wide-grip designs.
I'd choose based on grip and what you shoot accurately. P226 is an excellent pistol, but make sure it fits your hand first. I have a Norinco P228 copy and while it is one of the most easy-cleaning and reliable designs I have ever seen, I think the P226 might be a bit "chunky" for me. The CZ-75 feels like a "real" pistol.
While this is fair, it means that the price of your CZ gets jacked up into Glock territory, or even refurbished Sig territory. Also, to remove the trigger and magazine drop impediments on a CZ-75 could cost you money. So the price starts to escalate once you try to make it comparable with other modern Western handgun designs that have good triggers and drop-free mags. You have to mod your CZ-75 or buy a CZ-85 Combat. So is it really a good deal? If you absolutely have to have a particular CZ model, then yes, it is.
I ended up going with a nickle CZ-85 combat. I absolutely had to have nickel, as I hate maintaining bluing, so my choices were limited.
There are some really good prices from Wolverine and Guns and Things on the various CZ-75 models and some of the 85s, so I'd say go ahead and get a CZ from them if you are looking for blued. Once you get up past $800, it makes sense in my view to get a Glock or Sig.
What makes the CZs special is the finish options that are not available on Sigs or Glocks, so if that's a special point for you, then get the CZ. Otherwise, SIG is a great pistol if you want to spend a few hundred more. That is comparing apples and oranges, though, as CZ is a steel pistol designed for 1911-style grip lovers, and the SIGs are polymer wide-grip designs.
I'd choose based on grip and what you shoot accurately. P226 is an excellent pistol, but make sure it fits your hand first. I have a Norinco P228 copy and while it is one of the most easy-cleaning and reliable designs I have ever seen, I think the P226 might be a bit "chunky" for me. The CZ-75 feels like a "real" pistol.
Greenhorse six
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The triggers will smoothen out with use,and lots of dry fireing using snap-caps.
dinsdale
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Have to agree. After 500 live rounds and the same again in dry fire, the trigger is smoother. Although still really stiff in Double Action, single Action is decent.
I start cocked and locked in IDPA anyway so DA is not a concern yet.
Unregistered,
I shoot both styles ok.
I'm probably going to save up and get a Sig P220 match then eventually a Sig X-five stainless in 9mm. The $860 range is a significant portion of the cost on a Sig (especially the P220). The CZ85 combat was a nice gun to shoot. Unfortunately CZ has just crossed that price point barrier for me . If the CZ combat was $700 in Nickel I would go for it. At $860 though it's harder to justify and easier to consider putting that money towards a Sig.
I agree about not liking blueing on pistols. I prefer natural stainless for ease of cleaning and generaly they look better much longer.
I shoot both styles ok.
I'm probably going to save up and get a Sig P220 match then eventually a Sig X-five stainless in 9mm. The $860 range is a significant portion of the cost on a Sig (especially the P220). The CZ85 combat was a nice gun to shoot. Unfortunately CZ has just crossed that price point barrier for me . If the CZ combat was $700 in Nickel I would go for it. At $860 though it's harder to justify and easier to consider putting that money towards a Sig.
I agree about not liking blueing on pistols. I prefer natural stainless for ease of cleaning and generaly they look better much longer.
