CZ 858-2 Cocking Prob

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I've noticed every now and again that when fireing my CZ, if I don't pull the trigger back fully enough, the rifle will chamber another round but fail to #### the striker. This can be over come by simply making sure you follow through on pulling the trigger completely to the rear when fireing, but allot of times I like to only lightly pull the trigger and this is getting annoying. Is anyone elese having this problem?
 
I have a lot of dead space in my trigger. I have to move the trigger back about an eighth of an inch before I feel any pressure.

Anybody else have this?

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That shouldn't happen. Keep in mind folks, this is a mass produced military rifle so it is quite possible to aquire a defective rifle. I'd try and talk to the dealer to rectify the problem. The fact that the striker follows the bolt (ie not cocking) worries me. This is how the rifle was designed to fire in the full auto mode. The fact that it is not firing full auto indicates that there is a problem with either the sear and/or striker. What you discribe is that the round is stripped and chambered with striker down and therefore firing pin out! Check the firing pin there may also be a problem there. Sounds very strange.
 
skooch said:
That shouldn't happen. Keep in mind folks, this is a mass produced military rifle so it is quite possible to aquire a defective rifle. I'd try and talk to the dealer to rectify the problem. The fact that the striker follows the bolt (ie not cocking) worries me. This is how the rifle was designed to fire in the full auto mode. The fact that it is not firing full auto indicates that there is a problem with either the sear and/or striker. What you discribe is that the round is stripped and chambered with striker down and therefore firing pin out! Check the firing pin there may also be a problem there. Sounds very strange.

Not even close........:rolleyes:
The hammer following the bolt home is a disconnect problem. Full auto is designed to release the hammer as soon as the bolt is locked up, not following the bolt home. These guns are missing several critical parts to operate like their military full auto counterparts.
 
I'll try to call Wolverine in the morning, just to see what they say.

I also have alot of dead space in the trigger but I never really paid much attenchion to it.

This is really bothering me, I really don't want to have to send this back or anything.
 
Look again. The bolt lock locks the bolt at the monent the round is in the chamber. At this moment the firing pin is aloud to strike the primer. This is why the VZ 58 has a very high cyclic rate. And I stand corrected it is not sear but disconnector.
 
skooch said:
Look again. The bolt lock locks the bolt at the monent the round is in the chamber. At this moment the firing pin is aloud to strike the primer. This is why the VZ 58 has a very high cyclic rate. And I stand corrected it is not sear but disconnector.
For full auto, there has to be a delay between the bolt locking and the hammer falling.....this is what the auto-sear is for, something the CZ/VZ rifles we have in canada do not have.
The hammer slipping over the disconnect and following the bolt home rarely has enough energy to fire the round in the chamber. You don't know what you are talking about.
 
Hitzy said:
The hammer slipping over the disconnect and following the bolt home rarely has enough energy to fire the round in the chamber.

Agred. If it did my rifle would have slam-fired each time the striker sliped. Theres never even been a mark on the primer either than the tiny nic you usally get on a primer after chambering it in a semi that has free floating fireing pin.
 
OK, I'm full of S%$t. I'm not getting into a pissing contest. And we are on the cusp of descussing how to commit a federal crime. You know what you know as I know what I know and we shall agree to dissagree.
 
Cz858

I have the same problem with my CZ858. I didn't realize that more follow through on the trigger might help. I'll try it. Please post what Wolverine says if you speak to them.
 
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SKooch, enough..
---- I had had my rifle do this when I first got it. Pull the cocking lever back all the way, then release the lever. Your gun should be ready to fire. Also one other tip is to give the silde a dab of oil as well as your trigger. this loosen the rifle up making it work better. It worked for me.
 
Norcyaddict762 said:
Pull the cocking lever back all the way, then release the lever. Your gun should be ready to fire.

You mean after it fails? I'm not sore what your tring to say. I will try the oil though.
 
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HeadDamage said:
Try softer primers ;)

Ljungman...

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Do NOT do that if you like liberty and rooms with a view... :eek:
 
Ljungman said:
You mean after it fails? I'm not sore what your tring to say. I will try the oil though.

When I had mine, I had a similar problem. The hammer was cocking though and caught by the sear, but the trigger return spring was too weak to reset the trigger past the disconnect. I had to push the trigger forward to get it to engage the sear again. Next time it happens to you, before re-cocking, try just pushing forward on the trigger. You will heaar a clic when it engages again.
Give that a check and see if that is your problem.
 
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