CZ 858 dead trigger
- Thread starter Sardaukar
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I have been reading more and more threads about the cz/vz concerns over the last couple years. Some people have good luck with them but it seems more people are having grief, does not matter if it's from brand new or high round count they all seem to fail the grade. I purchased one and upon inspection sold it.
I have been on the brink of investing into the 858 as well...I'm afraid this last thread will turn me from these rifles. Too much fuss, I realize it's not in the same class but I'm going to stick with what works,and for me that's an sks. after all 5rds is 5rds
In last two Years, i owned 6 different CZs, and one CSA carbine... i havn't had any gremlin issues, or other malfunctions.. other then jammed casing in the chamber...in one of the CZs, but it was my fault for not cleaning the chamber properly....
So considering that only the people with a problem/issue make this kind of thread, and then looking at how many CZs are sold all over Canada, most of the owners dont bother writing how good and reliable the CZs are, they just enjoy shooting it... So statistically it is a great reliable gun with minimum problems... and thats a fact.
So considering that only the people with a problem/issue make this kind of thread, and then looking at how many CZs are sold all over Canada, most of the owners dont bother writing how good and reliable the CZs are, they just enjoy shooting it... So statistically it is a great reliable gun with minimum problems... and thats a fact.
Please try to see if the trigger pins on both sides of the reciever are sitting flush with the reciever.
Better yet please post a pic.
I'll try to walk you threw it on-line but to bad you live in Quebec and not in the LMZ I would have had this fix in no time.
Better yet please post a pic.
I'll try to walk you threw it on-line but to bad you live in Quebec and not in the LMZ I would have had this fix in no time.
Does it #### and fire normally, but you just cant remove the dustcover? If you cant remove the dustcover that means the striker is in the rearward position. Is the trigger dropping the striker? Try pulling on the trigger while pulling down on the sear with a hook, something may be broken inside, jamming the sear upwards and preventing the striker from moving forwards.
From your picture it looks like it almost wants to come out, try taking a flat screwdriver and gently prying the dustcover upwards, see if you can get it to clear the receiver. Dont worrry, these guns are rather tough, sometimes you just gotta go a little WECSOG on them.
From your picture it looks like it almost wants to come out, try taking a flat screwdriver and gently prying the dustcover upwards, see if you can get it to clear the receiver. Dont worrry, these guns are rather tough, sometimes you just gotta go a little WECSOG on them.
You're not "once bitten, twice shy" with these rifles?
How will prying upwards gently on the dustcover muck up the trigger group? If anything, you are taking pressure off the trigger group.
The dustcover has two springs, an action spring and a striker spring. If the bolt carrier is forward that means the action spring isnt the problem. Its most likely the striker jammed in the rearward position, either by failing to be released by the sear because your trigger s**t the bed, or the sear is jammed upwards by a broken peice of trigger mech/debris(unlikely)
Now the striker is held in its rearmost position by the upwards pressure of the sear and sear spring, which is then released by the trigger, causing the striker to go forwards firing a round etc.
By prying upwards on the dust cover with the striker jammed backwards the most you can do is bend,or in worst case break, the striker spring guide rod, or cause the striker to hop off the sear connecting surface.
In that case the striker should move forwards, releasing the dustcover assembly. Pull down on the sear with a hooked tool at the same time you slowly pry upwards on the dustcover. It should go the last 2mm you need without damaging the rifle. Make sure you pull on the sear itself, not just the sear spring, which is the flat piece of springy metal underneath the sear.
Its not the ideal method of course, as it has the potential to bend/break the striker spring guide rod. It may also bend/break the striker,however that is highly highly unlikely as the striker is much thicker and heavier than the guide rod.
Once you have the dustcover off you should be able to see why the trigger is failing to release the striker. Post a picture and we should be able to get you sorted out.
