CZ 858 Magwell adapters.

It would appear that the B&T mag well adapter will fit to all .223 CSA guns with no further machining. In the photo below the rifle on the left is .223 and the adapter will drop in with no problem. The 7.62 carbine on the right requires some machining.

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Depending on your hand guard a little trimming may be required where the bottom rear part of the hand guard meets the adapter, this applies to all makes and models.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
It would appear that the B&T mag well adapter will fit to all .223 CSA guns with no further machining. In the photo below the rifle on the left is .223 and the adapter will drop in with no problem. The 7.62 carbine on the right requires some machining.

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Depending on your hand guard a little trimming may be required where the bottom rear part of the hand guard meets the adapter, this applies to all makes and models.
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That's the news i've been waiting. :) Mine will arrive on Monday so I can confirm that.
 
gosse said:
Does that include the earlier Carbine models with serial #5600127CA and before and the Sporter models with serial #5600089C and before?
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I have one of the early CSA .223 Sporter rifles and the magwell looks open like the pic on the left. Might be ok?
 
Problem

I got adapter today. It fits my .223 OK, but there is another problem - magazines are not holding! I think that this is the oversized latch tab that is bigger than a hole in .223 magazines. I am not sure how big is it in XCR pistol mags, but I am definitely not happy.

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I will bring these photos the Wolfgang's attention.

Please call the store at your earliest convenience and Wolfgang should be able to help clarify this issue.

Thank you for you patience.
 
Ok, I've filed it down a little bit and now magazine holds, but rounds are not feeding properly, they are not lifting up enough to get in to the chamber. Wolfgang is investigating this issue.
 
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I got my magwell adapter today,the 10 rd xcr 7.62x39 mag has no problem, but 223 lar mag falls when inserted.The above pic shows the difference between the two mags.The one on the left is the lar and on the right is the xcr.The xcr mag has a metal protrusion above the hole which prevent it from falling off the magwell.
 
Unfortunately, seems like a design flaw. Along with feeding problem. Too bad since .223 CSA doesn't require any machining :( I think those shouldn't be listed for two platforms but for 7.62 only.
 
id64 said:
Unfortunately, seems like a design flaw. Along with feeding problem. Too bad since .223 CSA doesn't require any machining :( I think those shouldn't be listed for two platforms but for 7.62 only.
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:agree: I don't know how the xcr mag will hold in the long run.
 
I have fitted a B&T magwell adapter to a CSA .223 carbine and have come to the conclusion that at this time, until further research, the adapter should not be used on the .223 CSA Carbines. The cartridges are not presented correctly and when stripped from the magazine by the bolt/carrier hit the chamber face instead of being guided into the chamber. The feed ramp would have to be build up to afford enough lift for proper guidance.
Wolfgang.
General Manager.
Wolverine Supplies.
 
Jaegermeister said:
I have fitted a B&T magwell adapter to a CSA .223 carbine and have come to the conclusion that at this time, until further research, the adapter should not be used on the .223 CSA Carbines. The cartridges are not presented correctly and when stripped from the magazine by the bolt/carrier hit the chamber face instead of being guided into the chamber. The feed ramp would have to be build up to afford enough lift for proper guidance.
Wolfgang.
General Manager.
Wolverine Supplies.
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Yep, unfortunately that's the case. While magazine latch issue can be fixed easily I don't see easy solution for a building up a feed ramp to incorporate to existing design.

I guess, the solution for .223 folks will be a second gen CSA adapter - first one is a flimsy garbage. My second one is falling apart already and this is mainly from playing with it and now actually shooting at the range.

Do you have CSA second gen in stock by any chance?

Thanks
 
Jaegermeister said:
I have fitted a B&T magwell adapter to a CSA .223 carbine and have come to the conclusion that at this time, until further research, the adapter should not be used on the .223 CSA Carbines. The cartridges are not presented correctly and when stripped from the magazine by the bolt/carrier hit the chamber face instead of being guided into the chamber. The feed ramp would have to be build up to afford enough lift for proper guidance.
Wolfgang.
General Manager.
Wolverine Supplies.
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How about for the 7.62,does it have the same problem? I don't want to do any modes to the rifle that I will regret later.Thanks
 
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