CZ 858 muzzle brakes

Figure 11 said:
I have a sudden interest in this rifle, and I understand it comes with just a thread protector on the business end. I'd like to hear about peoples experiences with muzzle brakes. In order of preference, I'm looking for:

Effective, or why bother

Issue bayonet still fits, because 5 rounds might not be enough to stop a zombie

Doesn't look too out of place

Cheap, because The Party takes so much for the greater good

Blasty doesn't bother me. It keeps others away when I'm shooting.
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if zombies are walking around, my friend I give you permission to remove rivets, thats on my authority.
 
VanIsleCam said:
I can't see with reason why you would want want one. Sure you can dial back in slightly quicker for a follow up shot but honestly, how far are you off target with x39 ammo? Not that far in my view. The break doesn't improve accuracy and it blows back(ish) so if the shtf you can reacquire your 3-4 inch MOA and not hear your wife yelling there are zombies behind you.
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I personally found the 58/858 style rifles, with there high center of gravity stock design, light weight and firing 123gr 30cal rounds; were quite jumpy on the muzzle end .... if your ears allow it, that warrants a muzzle brake.
 
A while back TVpress-pass and I did a bunch of experimenting with all the brakes for the CZ.

If memory serves we had a standard style brake with slots drilled on the side and the top, a birdcage style brake, a slant brake, and that "special forces" 2 piece brake.

He probably had more info and might chime in here, but if I can recall, the slant brake was the most aesthetically pleasing on a NR barrel, but worked the worst. It sure kept the muzzle down, but at the expense of kicking the back up, and into your cheek. For it to be effective you had to clock it away from you, the one we had had 3 positions, I don't know if they still come like that.

The standard and birdcage all worked OK and were definitely noticeable, but the special forces brake worked really awesome. Like REALLY awesome. Used it on my .223 CSA and my CZ 858, and reduced a ton of the recoil and muzzle rise. Of course as so many things are in the firearms world, the most functional one is also the least aesthetically pleasing....
 
Duncan71 said:
A while back TVpress-pass and I did a bunch of experimenting with all the brakes for the CZ.

If memory serves we had a standard style brake with slots drilled on the side and the top, a birdcage style brake, a slant brake, and that "special forces" 2 piece brake...

...The standard and birdcage all worked OK and were definitely noticeable, but the special forces brake worked really awesome. Like REALLY awesome. Used it on my .223 CSA and my CZ 858, and reduced a ton of the recoil and muzzle rise. Of course as so many things are in the fi...
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I think it was this video that made a big influence on my decision to purchase. I was initially looking to buy the bird cage comp. But before committing did some research. I could not find any bad reviews or comments about the 2 piece special forces brake. So I got one for my x39 and do not regret it at all. Works very nice. Just be careful how you lube it. The combination of oil residue with high carbon burnt surplus non corrosive powder created a hard black solid build up along some of the gas routing holes after about 250 rounds. Now I consciously use minimal oil on it if any at all.
 
The Dlask A6 is very good, as well as the Corwin units. Least favourite is the slant brake.
As others have said, there is a vid somewhere comparing them all. Not sure if they did the Special Forces brake in the vid though?
 
CanadianBaconPancakes said:
The dlask A-6 break is amazing. I sold mine because I wanted the stock look but damn did it every work.

Slant break is Awfull, Kicks he stock into your face.
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Funny I got my dlask break off eBay from a guy with a screen name very similar to yours...

Loud as hell and does what's it's supposed to, not that his caliber really needs it.
 
Video I did a few years ago.
Yes...I know the quality was crap (had focus issues with that cam) and the soundtrack brutal (just turn it off), but you can still see how a few of these brakes direct the gas.

 
warrenlikesboats said:
I personally found the 58/858 style rifles, with there high center of gravity stock design, light weight and firing 123gr 30cal rounds; were quite jumpy on the muzzle end .... if your ears allow it, that warrants a muzzle brake.
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Plugs and muffs, plugs and muffs.

Saying you don't want a rifle that shoots as flat as possible is like saying all seasons are good on the car. If that's what it comes with, you should be satisfied with barely adequate.
 
Figure 11 said:
Plugs and muffs, plugs and muffs.

Saying you don't want a rifle that shoots as flat as possible is like saying all seasons are good on the car. If that's what it comes with, you should be satisfied with barely adequate.
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Plugs and muffs dont work out so well when your hunting.... the trick is finding a muzzle brake that is effective, but not too hard on the ears......
 
Yeah, I've been trying, correction harassing corwin for an AK-74 brake for months. I'm hoping he gets his supply in order. I agree with the previous posters. The slant brake is garbage. It's meant for child soldiers going full auto. I'm thinking I might try the A6 on my non restricted, seeing as how it's blasting season. I'm still holding out hope for the AK-74 brake, but seeing as the shop just forgot the corwin order, I'm not holding my breath for quality. The new zahal brake will probably go on my restricted rifle if the AK-74 doesn't materialize. I just figure if I wait, some brave soul will give it a review!
 
Wolf@TS said:
Video I did a few years ago...
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I saw your video and also saw this other one at the bottom of this post. To me, both videos seemed to point to the two part brake as the top performer. After trying it myself, the only ”weakness” I could find is that it can build up a hard burnt residue in between the two parts of the brake, specially if the brake is over lubricated. Unlike other brakes, gases and burnt particulate don't always have a straight and easy way out when traveling through it. Soot mixed with oil and subjected to the pressures and temperatures of multiple firings will cook up a hard black crusty substance.

Also, a note on slant brakes: the Dlask slant and the Corwin slant brake are physically different and perform differently specially on a non restricted barrel length.

 
Not all AK-74 brakes are created equal, some merely resemble the military brake externally while they cheap out on the internal geometry. Some otherwise spec out ok but aren't chrome lined.
 
Thanks for the support, everyone. I think I have a way forward that I'm going to try.

If someone tries the D-force brake, it would be helpful if they post a review for the greater good. There doesn't seem to be one on the interwebs from an independent source.

Feel free to continue to discuss.

warrenlikesboats said:
Plugs and muffs dont work out so well when your hunting.... the trick is finding a muzzle brake that is effective, but not too hard on the ears......
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I've been meaning to try the Surefire plugs. They're supposed to let normal noise levels through but throttle peaks.
 
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