CZ-858/SKS Recovery from deliquent children

Akronym said:
Hi ladies/gents, I was out of the country for a extended period of time and just got home to a real sh*t suprise. Long story short & let me state the obvious here first. This is my fault for not having the time to properly instruct them on the maintenance of all the firearms I had entrusted them with (in my defence I have shown them the proper way to clean these rifles about a thousand times, but knowledge like this never sticks with teen-agers because it ain't a fu**in X-box or related to a Iphone...wait they're may be an app for this....sigh), I was very busy with work-ups etc, and yes they are valid PAL R/PAL holders just not very experienced. So here it is, they (my boys) went out with my 858's and SKS's and shot through all my non-corrosives, which is cool I told em go nuts! Well they went out and bought some Czech corrosive (my money) fired about 2000 rounds combined through the rifles without cleaning them properly afterwards. (asked them to show me exactly how they did it and I had a f***in cardiac, and I'll save the embarassment of posting what they actually did...... this just re-affirms I need to leave my work alone and spend more time making them into proper young men and being a better father). Had them sit there 6 months before I came home on leave, then they decided they would get them all dolled up for dad upon my return, dunked them into a bathtub with dish soap and water, air dried them then just dumped all my Hoppes#9 oil down the barrels and let them sit. Well long story short my tour was extended, I came home for two weeks and didn't even want to look at my guns...so I didn't. I make it home 4 months later to find my barrels full of carbonized sh*t and rust. Is there any hope in recovering these rifles? I like most of you folks am a working man and cannot afford to go out and simply replace them. Any tips on ridding myself of the rust. I have spent probably close to 8 hours on each rifle trying to clean it but with little success, I get the carbon etc out and clean a majority of the rust but with no lasting effect. The rust always returns. Anyone got a final solution so the barrels & actions stops oxidizing?

I have already:
Cleaned and scrubbed every conceivable and accessable part
Soaked the bolt assembly in oil for about a week
Scrubbed the barrell with a poly/nylon coarse brush then scrubbed with clean swabs
Gratiously coated the barrel & action with Hoppes#9
Bought and ran through some stuff called 7.62 solution then followed the outlined steps above again...

All to little or no effect.

I'm running out of idea's and apart from spending $200 on gun oil and soaking the entire rifle in a oil bath for a week, I am at a loss as to what else I can do to help restore the metals resistance and integrity. I'm not into metalergy but I'm begining to think it may become helpful.

Your thoughts are appreciated because pretty soon I'm going to have to give it all up and retire. I'll be in a wheelchair because my feet will be to pre-occupied, being that my size 12's will be firmly implanted up my two sons asses for the foreseeable future. Thanks ladies and gents in advance.
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No worries, i saw this before and your rifles can be saved.

1- Boiling water to flush the salt and a patch soaked with water ,run fews times down the bore and gas tube then rinse again with water.
2- dry patch down the bore and any wahsed parts
3- Good bore cleaner, wet patch with solvent,back and forth, dry patch,wet patch again followed by fews dry patches until they come clean.
4- oil all parts and you should be fine this time. The key is the hot water treatment as H.Wally said.
Joce
 
Thanks for all your help and support gents. Believe me I have them working like dogs to make reparations, my brother in law is a plumber and he's found himself two new recruits for digging trenches and installing perimeter drain lines for the foreseeable future. My boys ain't to bright sometimes but they are good kids and love the shooting sports and what's most important to me is that they respect the firearms they use and view them with reverance, not like some of their friends they have asked me to bring along with us. I swear you can see the stupidity in there beady little eyes when I pull out my AR, you can see the reflection of the flashbacks they are having playing the lastest shooting game. I can speak for my sons and say I have never found them to be using firearms irresponsibly, and I tend to give them quite a bit of latitude in there use admittedly because they have proven the ability to handle it. We try and shoot every Sunday so they are quite comfortable with their use. They just royally fu**ed up this time by being inattentive which is a habit of youth, and not listening to their father which is a habit of sons as any father will tell you. Thank you for all the tips I am going to try in earnest to repair these firearms because like I said I just don't have the money at the moment to get new rifles and they are already installed in aftermarket stocks and such. I was intrigued by the posts you guys had forwarded me to....using a cell phone charger for electrolosis, that is clever. Bargain brand Windex in copious quantities? I am going to try the most simple exercises up to the most complicated until I can get them back to a decent condition. Again thank you very much guys it's great to be able to have such a fantastic and enthusiastic community to turn to when in need, it's appreciated.
 
Windex doesn't have what it takes to deal with the corrosive salts. Water is the main thing to wash out the corrosive salts. After that, you will need to scrub out the rust and hope it doesn't leave too much pitting. Probably electrolysis. After that, just oil to protect. I'm glad the little punks are learning what's what and I hope you will take my original suggestions and enjoy them for decades to come until their punkass brats inherit them from you when they're old enough not to be punkass brats any more :cool:
 
There was a thread here about a sks that was a pile of rust and a guy saved it. Not sure what he used it might be worth searching for.
 
Other then making them buy you new guns you should make them buy their own ammo and guns that way they will learn to take good care of them since they worked hard to get them ( I paid for it I won't reck it).

P.s I'm 18 and I got myself 3/5 guns I own( mosin, vz 24 , k31) and all my ammo .If you were to take them apart and clean them the rags and patches would come out with only oil on them.
 
Hose rifle down with G96 while at the range, run a couple dozen rounds through it. Take it home and clean it as normal.

The same thing happened to my Norc SKS. I never cleaned the thing after using corrosive ammo 10 years ago.
 
Try heavily soaking with Gunzilla. Then try a cleaning.
Check out their website, that stuff is pretty impressive against rust and carbon.
I love the stuff after what I've seen it do.
 
Grab a boiling hot water and douce it every were and repeat this 3 or 4 times allowing it to soak.
Before this spray sweets 7.62 for corrosive ammo down the barrel.
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Then let the carbon stuff sit in this stuff for a bit.
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Then wipe everthing with Marstar CLP and use this stuff next time before you leave for prolonged periods of time. Actually saturate it.
It's got teflon sitting at the bottom so you got to shake it before you use it.
 
I want to thank all the CGN'er on here for your advice and support you guys really are amazing people, some of the responses I have recieved have absolutely floored me gents. I have to honestly say it has restored a lost faith in my fellow countryman. Let me just say CGN'ers are amazing people and I am proud to be a part of this amazing community. Thanks for all your responses for help and messages of support.
 
Sounds unlikely that you can repair the damage done.

Even if you stop the rusting and get all the carbon and rust off the surface, the metal (especially the bore!) is probably damaged beyond repair if what you posted is accurate. Half the bore will come out as rust even if you could get it all to loosen up lol

Your best bet would be to salvage whatever parts you can, sell them to raise funds and send your damned kids to work all summer long until they can replace the rifles.
That is unnacaptable and there is an important lesson for them to learn there should you choose to teach them.
 
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