CZ/Brno advice

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Dsiwy

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Hey guys

I dont know alot about 22lr rifles, But I do know Cz/Brno make awesome guns. I am looking for a good target gun in 22lr and have come down to ether the CZ 452 varmint, CZ 452 American or a used Brno No 4.

What do you think is the best of the bunch?
 
I have both a varmint and a No4. They both shoot about the same off sandbags, however the #4 is way better for offhand shooting, that long heavy barrel holds very steady, until your muscles play out as it is very heavy. For gopher hunting I prefer my Varmint. Off sandbags it's really a toss up, the #4 is probably better as the weight should make it tougher to pull the shot if you have a less then perfect trigger squeeze.
 
They're all good choices and very accurate!!! If you want a heavy barrel a Brno #4 or a CZ Varmint is a good choice. A Brno #4 is longer and bulkier. If you want a lightweight sporter gun that is as accurate as the heavy barrels go for a Brno #1, 2, or 5 or the CZ American.
 
Just came back from P&D. They have a #4 for sale - $450 if I remember correctly.

If you decide to buy it, do a fellow gunnut a solid and sell me the peep sight of it.

Cheers

Fat
 
K98 said:
They're all good choices and very accurate!!! If you want a heavy barrel a Brno #4 or a CZ Varmint is a good choice. A Brno #4 is longer and bulkier. If you want a lightweight sporter gun that is as accurate as the heavy barrels go for a Brno #1, 2, or 5 or the CZ American.
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There is also the matter of the (early) Model 4 having a captured spring loaded plunger in the base of the bolt handle to lock the bolt down, the Model 4 (early) also has a captured spring loaded plunger in the sear as opposed to the modern (post '74) Brno/CZ which has a cheap ball-bearing and spring in the sear....good luck to you finding that bloody little ball-bearing if the spring spits it out when you are putting the trigger back together.
Last but not least the early Brno .22 LR's had a steel magazine well and a steel magazine base(spring type for five shot, cast steel for ten shot and some five shots).
 
Either of the above choices would be great ways to go. The CZ/brno lignups are very well built, extremely accurate, etc It all really narrows down to your purposes for the gun as others mentioned.
 
Time to steal some technique from competitive off-hand shooting and attempt to use only bone for supporting the rifle. ;) Muscle fatigue shouldn't be a factor if you do so. On silhouette match days we're shooting from about 8:30 in the morning until maybe 2:30 in the afternoon, and it's all off-hand. My 8 1/2 lb CZ 453 Varmint rig doesn't feel any heavier by the end of the day than it did at the start, as I'm trying to support all its weight with bone to try to take as much muscle out of the equation for a steadier shot. Tuck that forward arm's elbow into your ribs and move the hand closer to the trigger. Or if your build allows, use the top of your hip bone to support your elbow. Supposedly women have more luck in being built for that technique to work. I know my arm isn't long enough for my elbow to reach my hip bone anyway, heh.
Scar270 said:
way better for offhand shooting, that long heavy barrel holds very steady, until your muscles play out as it is very heavy
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I really love my #4... although the weight is a factor... I've never shot a CZ... but there's no way they're as heavy!!! If you want, PM me with your e-mail, and I'll send you the data for group sizes I've compiled for different .22LR ammo offerings... You'll be impressed by the #4.

EB
 
Am Leaning towards the Brno #4 since it has globes sights and scope rails.
I only want it for target shooting and casaul long range "50m -100m" pest shooting.
 
_Shorty said:
Time to steal some technique from competitive off-hand shooting and attempt to use only bone for supporting the rifle. ;) Muscle fatigue shouldn't be a factor if you do so. On silhouette match days we're shooting from about 8:30 in the morning until maybe 2:30 in the afternoon, and it's all off-hand. My 8 1/2 lb CZ 453 Varmint rig doesn't feel any heavier by the end of the day than it did at the start, as I'm trying to support all its weight with bone to try to take as much muscle out of the equation for a steadier shot. Tuck that forward arm's elbow into your ribs and move the hand closer to the trigger. Or if your build allows, use the top of your hip bone to support your elbow. Supposedly women have more luck in being built for that technique to work. I know my arm isn't long enough for my elbow to reach my hip bone anyway, heh.
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I actually do this, off-hand silhouette is usually what I shoot with it. I just find I have to pace myself with it and let my arms rest between shots. If I try to fire 5 shots in 30 seconds or something like that fatigue sets in, if I shoot it over the alloted 2 minutes no problems. I would think it may be a factor though for smaller framed people, which is why I mentioned it. However thanks anyway for the advice, always happy to receive good solid advice.
 
Yeah, I guess there are no absolutes, everyone's different. I don't notice fatigue when I'm up at the line, but I suppose I shouldn't assume that everyone's going to have the same results. Shot our silhouette matches today, and I tend to keep the rifle up there for all five shots. How fast I go through the string seems to vary, which is probably a result of still experimenting to a degree. I usually seem to finish up my string while there's still about a minute left in our 2:30 allotted time, so about 1:30 for all five shots for me. Unless I'm rushing, which I did sometimes today, heh.
 
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