CZ/Brno older commercial rifle.

Good looking rifles CZ. I like most guns kept the way they are, having said that if you had a 21H action only, what would you do? I happen to have one and am toying with many ideas as to calibre, stock, barrel etc., including just getting all the pieces and "make" another 21H. Toss me some ideas, confuse me even more. --- John303.

You have only a receiver?
 
I purchased the receiver and bottom metal with set triggers from TEC, then a bolt body for which I have enough parts to complete. I later purchased 2 - 21H stocks, this individual also has some other parts like a barrel for instance. So without parting out a 21H I have a variety of paths I can take to "make" a gun on a 21H action. Given this "oppurtunity" what would you do? --- John303.
 
Tough one John..........

-what do you like to hunt with a rifle like this?
-do you prefer North American cartidges, British or European?
-are you going to use the slender 21H stocks?

Once these are clarified I can figure out exactly what you need.......if you were me of course.LOL
 
Well Noel it is a tough one when you have the bases, calibre wise pretty well covered, from .22 to .375 HxH. It would be advantageous to have something below .275 so I have been thinking a 6.5x55/57/06 - good for varmints up to anything on this continent, maybe a little dicey on large bears but I will not likely ever be in that position. Probably keep the 21H style stock. Forget about me what would you (anyone) do if you had this opportunity? --- John303.
 
I think you have it solved already then. 6,5x55 if you are a Swede, 6,5x57 is you have a touch of German or the 6,5-06 if your blood runs red white and blue.

Out of those three I'd pick the x57. Brass is easy to find and you'd never need to worry abvout the COL being too long for the mag.


I had plans to ream mine out to 280 Ackley when I first bought it. Under the wise direction of a fellow cgn'er I gave it a try as is and am glad for it. The Ackley would have been neat but this one does just fine.

Since you are in a build mood one thing I would modify is the bolt handle to clear your scope using Talley QD rings. Get someone with some decent taste to do the job, they might need to inlet the stock but that is better IMO than just filing a flat area on the bend of the handle.
For varmints you might need a quick shot once in awhile, If you have DSTs in your rifle I would swap that out for the Dayton. It is the smallest adjustable trigger and fits with minimal modifacations.
 
I also would lean to a 6.5 x 57. They are out there in factory form and I think they are novel but easy enough to load for plus being a fine round.

Noel, with the Dayton trigger - what did you do to the bottom metal and the 2 slots for the DST?
That is funny as I just reconverted one from a single trigger (one of the 2 original DST that was left in the original bottom metal) back to a DST. Its a 21 H in 280 Rem (it was a 7x64 until someone "improved it-- grrrrrrr") I like the DST - even in fast situations it works for me and I love the set ability when its needed.

I still hunt for an original 21H in 7x64......... keep missing them
 
I also would lean to a 6.5 x 57. They are out there in factory form and I think they are novel but easy enough to load for plus being a fine round.

Noel, with the Dayton trigger - what did you do to the bottom metal and the 2 slots for the DST?
That is funny as I just reconverted one from a single trigger (one of the 2 original DST that was left in the original bottom metal) back to a DST. Its a 21 H in 280 Rem (it was a 7x64 until someone "improved it-- grrrrrrr") I like the DST - even in fast situations it works for me and I love the set ability when its needed.

I still hunt for an original 21H in 7x64......... keep missing them

Proline had a 280 IMP I wanted to buy but it had a gouge in the chamber IIRC. Seems a shame now to rechamber to a NA cartridge but that is just me.

My rifle did not have a DST, only a single trigger like a milsurp in every way. Lots of creep, drag and no repeatability.... it sucked.
I did have to relieve the opening in the receiver to allow clearance for the sear to poke through.

With a little imagination a fellow could easily make a new trigger cover plate. Either find a CNC laser machine (easy) or the hard way with a drill, file, saw and vice.

If you are missing out on 7x64's at least you are seeing some, only ones I've found are in guys collections and not for sale. Would be a great chambering.
 
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Well Noel it is a tough one when you have the bases, calibre wise pretty well covered, from .22 to .375 HxH. It would be advantageous to have something below .275 so I have been thinking a 6.5x55/57/06 - good for varmints up to anything on this continent, maybe a little dicey on large bears but I will not likely ever be in that position. Probably keep the 21H style stock. Forget about me what would you (anyone) do if you had this opportunity? --- John303.


I just picked up a nice old caliber in a brand new rifle, 250 Savage. Should be fun to shoot. FS
 
I am leaning rather heavily towards the 6.5x57, and keeping the original "looks" of a 21, these guns are very appealing & IMHO mainly due to their proportions. I'll see how things come together, I see TEC has some new 6.5x55 barrels.

On the issue of triggers, if you wish to go from DSTs to a single, why not get 98 bottom metal and go from there a shame to ruin the original bottom metal. Of course you can send me those discarded triggers for safe keeping so I strongly encourage the conversion.

No promise but I will attempt to get some pics of my 21 & parts this weekend.

Take care all. --- John303.
 
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