CZ Ringneck

What did you pick up? Got any pics?

What the hell am I talking about anyways? I'm in Calgary for a few days...I might as well hit the shops and see if I can get anything interesting for an early Christmas present.
 
NWTHunter said:
Does anyone have any experience with this shotgun?

I've been wanting a quality side-by-side for a while now. This one seems to fit into my financial capacity. I don't expect it to compare favourably to a Silver Hawk, but what's it like?

I was looking at this SXS and found this old thread. There was a article in Gundog magazine last month on fine shotguns and the author mentioned the Ringneck for someone who does not want to spend a great deal. He said they have access to the best walnut back in Turkey where they are made.

Did you ever get one? I was surprised to find out that some guys say the SXS is hard to use. Is this because of the two barrels and the sight plane is different from a single barrel?
 
I shot more than half the rabbit season here with my lovely old tonolini 12 SxS, and I have to say it was a great season.

Anyone who has fumbling problems with two triggers should spend more time at the range.

I could not miss with this little double.

I have handled a CZ O/U .410, and it is an absolute jewel. At about $1K it is not really low-end, but it is a stunning little gun.

good shooting,

:D
 
Varmint, the only questions with the Huglu / CZ / DeHaan guns seems to be about reliability and durability. No one seems to question whether the guns handle and shoot well enough, nor do they complain about the fit and finish relative to the price.

There have been complaints about quality control. There are questions about the durability of the locks and bolting system. A number of junky Huglus imported by returning American servicemen have added no good to the marque's reputation. The bottom line is that no one really knows how the current (CZ marketed) product will stand up over the long term, the gun is as yet too new to tell.

I've had a 12 gauge DeHaan in my hands, and I wouldn't be ashamed to be seen with it. The guns do hit a price point that nicely fills the gap between the clunkier Russian and Brazilian guns and the lighter, better handling Ruger Gold Label.

The Huglus actually have much better wood to metal fit than the Ruger, and are adorned with engraving / etching while the Ruger is starkly plain. Despite Hnachaj's contentions earlier in this thread, the strength of the Ruger is in its handling qualities. For a 12 gauge with 3 inch chambers, the Ruger is amazingly light (no more than 6 1/2 lbs, often less) but it is the distribution of that weight that is the real secret. I fundamentally disagree with Henry when he states that a Sterlingworth will outshoot the Ruger. Outlast it maybe, but not outshoot it.

In any case, the 12 gauge DeHaan I had in my hands was certainly no match for the Ruger in the weight, balance and handling departments. That is what you pay the extra money for, I guess. Overall, however, the Huglu is a very nice package. If the gun is built with sufficient quality to last a generation or two, then it represents very good value.

Sharptail
 
No I haven't purchased a Ringneck. In fact, since I posted the thread I've tried a couple of inexpensive shotguns in order to determine my preferences. I bought a TOZ 34 (I know, its an O/U) in order to get the feel of double triggers. Later I bought a nice little Gitti 16 ga SxS, with double triggers.

I have to say, I haven't had a problem with two triggers, in fact I find that I prefer that set-up. As for shooting a SxS, I enjoy that too; so much so that I will get rid of my 12 ga pump this spring and have even considered parting with my semi-auto as well.
 
Why the CSMC won't offer it's new Round Action with a set of 16b barrels instead of 20b escapes me. I'd be at the front of the line to get my hands on one. If you like a 20 they're a beauty at a phenomenal price, for a CSMC gun.

And FWIW, the round action gun I mentionned on Page 2 was a McNaughton. Stay away from them. If you make the mistake of handling one you'll be wrong for a long time. I still am.
 
Won't even get into the debate of sxs vs o/u.......my last count when I visited my native country in 2001 there were still 9 sxs (out of a total 17 or so that we possessed) standing in the family's gun rack.......1 Purdey, 2 H&H, 2 Westleys, 2 Greeners, a set of twin Churchills....all of those state of art and testament to the pleasure of wingshooting experience that I had with my family :D

On a daily basis, I dream/drool of being able to bring some of those over someday if it weren't for extremely stringent firearms policies over there :(

Now to "remotely" compensate for my feelings since I absolutely can't afford such hardware here, I recently went down the line of CZ and bought a couple of Bobwhites in 12 & 20.....fit/finish/balance is very good within it's own category, performance is also very good IMHO.

The caveat being - if you surf the Shotgun World forums....there are many mixed reveiws, both positive + negative on the CZ line of shotguns. Highlights on problems observed - "soft" firing pins, bbl selector not function properly etc. Personally, haven't experienced any concerns so far (have a Woodcock o/u as well) but then again I have had those for less than a year? Planning on getting another in 16ga either a Ringneck of a Bobwhite :D

I do realize that Brownings or Berrettas (spelling?) or that new Ruger straight stock would have been a much better investment, however, it may be somewhat taxing on the mental health when it comes to hunting with fine shotguns in terms of field use (or abuse!) :redface:
 
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I'm no shotgunning expert but all my life I have had a taste for sxs they just all seem to be a little out of reach for now. I handled a Ringneck, very nice gun, Ruger isn't too bad either, but then I had a Beretta Silverhawk 20ga in my hands and it was cinched. Even though I can't afford one right now I will have one some day and it will be worth the weight. If you can stand the wait get something that you'll never regret or have second thoughts about. Never compromise.
 
Searched in here,as well as other spots on the net,played with one in the store,then bought one.

Fit and finish was as good as any and better than the Franchi o/u I have.
I looked at a good deal of new and used guns in and above its price range and nothing I saw bettered the fit and finish,especially for the money.
It did take some getting used to when shooting as I'd never played with a sxs before.
As for its reliability haven't used it enough to comment.

I do have a Stoeger semi made by the same Turkish outfit and have nothing but good to say about it.Pull the trigger, it goes bang... always!
 
For the money, the Charles Daly ( Spanish made ) Field II Hunter side by sides are good value. The 20 ga I played with comes in 26" or 28" (prefered) interchangeable choke-tubed barrels, pistol grip stock, single selective trigger and a low profile semi-beavertail fore end. Maybe not the "ideal" upland gun for some, but very serviceable, quite shootable at not at all hard to look at. They are available in 12, 20, 28 & .410. Reminds me a little of the old Browning side by sides. Around $ 1200.

For $400 to $500 you might also be able to pick up an older Beretta 409 or something of that vintage.

There are no shortage of side by sides on the Live Pigeon circuit. Generally very high grade guns with double triggers, and on some, external hammers !
Don;'t try telling those guys that "side-bys" are hard-to-shoot game guns!
 
double triggers are the best. I have a spanish made 10 gauge SXS with improved modified chokes and double triggers. Letting em both go is a hoot. Keep in mind I stand 6'2 and mass around 265 pounds. im a sucker for big recoil, gotta get my hands on a 50 one of these days
 
Had a good look at a couple of bobwhites in 20 the other day, on one the right barrel muzzle was visibly lower than the left; very poor soldering job. The other seemed fine. They seem like not bad guns for the price but I would go over it like it was used and would definately not purchase one mail order! Personally, I would keep your eyes open for an old one, just do some research first and know what you are buying.

Cheers
 
Speaking of research, Sharptail and I have purchased 2 of them. Both Bobwhites, one in 28 and one in 20 ga. We've spent the past 3 weeks measuring, comparing, testing, and just plain shooting. Sorry for the teaser, but an extensive write up is on the way. So, if you're interested in these guns, keep your eyes peeled for a post that will be coming next weekend or the week after, probably.

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