CZ SP - Shadow - Orange - Canadian differences?


There's no «stainless» Canadian Shadow. It's basically a silver colour polycoat applied to the pistol, same as the black one just a different colour.

Product code PFA10192 is for the silver Canadian edition Shadow. PFA10194 is for the black finish version. None of them are the Shadowmate.

From a reputable source witch has both for sale right now for under $1400 each.

CZ75 SP01 Shadow Canadian Edition Silver PFA 10192
CZ75 SP01 Shadow Canadian Edition Black PFA 10194
 
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Good info Harry. Can you clarify the difference in finish between the shadowmate and shadow Canadian? I know the shadows are a black or silver polycoat. Is the shadowmate coated or blued?
 
I've seen the Shadow Mate. It's the same finish on my plain jane Shadow.
Trigger pull and reset is also the same. Around 3.5lbs S/A pull. Sure is a lot extra just for the grips, hammer, steel recoil rod and one less mag.
 
Here's two pictures (my ex Orange & new Shadowmate). The Orange's finish was a bit more black & glossy, the Mate's finish is more grayish/matte and seems more evenly applied.

Both pistols were manufactured in late 2013.

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Looks to me like it is the same finish. The shiny one is the same as my 75 Shadowline. I have never read on the CZ Forum where the finishes on their "blued" or what ever they use is any different from one current production gun to another. My Shadowline is the same as my SP-01, SP-01 Shadow and 85 Combat was and is.

There would be no reason for them to change just for one limited edition model. Not sure how limited it is other than the grips. I am afraid I don't agree there is much difference in the slide fit. The CZ's I have owned be it a basic 75B or the Shadowline the fit has always been tight. Not sure how much tighter the mating could be and still have the gun function. CZ seems to have a pretty imaginative marketing department. Just saying.

Take Care

Bob
 
Really don't know why CZ changed the finish but the newer Canadian editions & Shadowmates have a different finish than the Orange & previous models I had/handled.
 
I own a shadow orange and my wife owns an ordinary shadow, the orange is the best damn pistol i ever shot.

Here are the differences with an ordinary shadow: very very very good smooth trigger, super short reset, polished barrel, competition hammer, super tight barrel fit, took over 2000 rounds for it to loosen enough for me to allow it to be disassembled for cleaning, thats how tight the thing is put together, it is a custom fit, polished and fitted each individually.

best groups I ever shot, well worth the extra 400$
 
see, so confusing.
some people say they are different some people say your paying 400 for the grips.

think maybe ill hold off on this purchase until i can see some in my grubby hands to compare up close.
 
see, so confusing.
some people say they are different some people say your paying 400 for the grips.

think maybe ill hold off on this purchase until i can see some in my grubby hands to compare up close.

The orange is sure not just about the grips, people that say that are very clearly ignorant and speaking out of their ass, sorry guys but thats the truth, i shoot both my wife's regular shadow and my orange regularly and they are absolutely different. They are very hard to find because people generally jump on them very quickly. There was a deposit on mine from some other guy, and I was there and I said well Im here now with cash, so they sold it to me. I wouldn't wait very long if I was you, it'll be gone very quick.

Just that amazing trigger alone is worth 400$, it is absolutely not the ordinary shadow trigger, very smooth two stage with a really really short reset, even surprisingly short, very fast shooter.

So mush misinformation here its unbelievable.

Only thing that I can say is a bummer, is the thing is really really tight fitted. Takes quite a few rounds for it to loosen enough just so that you can clean it.

competition hammer:
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Different trigger:
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Polished barrel:
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Just that amazing trigger alone is worth 400$, it is absolutely not the ordinary shadow trigger, very smooth two stage with a really really short reset, even surprisingly short, very fast shooter.

So mush misinformation here its unbelievable.

Only thing that I can say is a bummer, is the thing is really really tight fitted. Takes quite a few rounds for it to loosen enough just so that you can clean it.
Sorry Mike, but saying it's a tight fit that takes quite a few rounds to loosen it to take it apart doesn't inspire confidence in "custom" fit to me.
Have you tried the latest batch of ordinary Shadows? Triggers are the same. I can change springs to make it lighter too if I want.
I've owned custom IPSC guns that were tight when new, but easily taken down for cleaning.
 
Sorry Mike, but saying it's a tight fit that takes quite a few rounds to loosen it to take it apart doesn't inspire confidence in "custom" fit to me.
Have you tried the latest batch of ordinary Shadows? Triggers are the same. I can change springs to make it lighter too if I want.
I've owned custom IPSC guns that were tight when new, but easily taken down for cleaning.

:agree:me too. I would want to service it before I shoot it for the first time. If one can't strip it right off the bat, it would be returned to the supplier.
 
So if I understand it right the Orange version comes with a custom fit so tight it is or is close to impossible to field strip it Mike. I will give in to your exaggeration there. Then within 2,000 rounds the metal wears so quickly that the slide and frame wears in enough to remove the slide from the frame. I would assume from your statement the wearing would continue, why would it not???? Is this good, bad or not likely? Those who have a different opinion then you may not have their heads up their asses as much as you think and if they do may not be alone.

The Orange version likely does receive extra tender loving care at the factory and they may well hold the gun to higher tolerances. That isn't the issue. The issue is will the shooter benefit from all of this extra loving care. Most shooters I would suggest won't get much benefit out of the tighter slide or shorter reset if indeed the shorter reset is there.

Buy the gun for a lot of reasons...ego, just because you can, pride of ownership or because the regular Shadow $850, or the Shadowline $1,100 are both guns that you presently can out shoot and you want to be able to go to the next level without the hindrance of being held back by a lessor gum. If it is the latter reason then surely the decision is easy.

From what I have seen in competitions most shooters are served just fine with a regular Shadow at $850. Some I have shot with have above average to remarkable reflexes and can and do take advantage of the regular Shadows short reset and some of those individuals are likely capable of taking advantage of an even shorter reset. The problem arises when you throw these variables into the sports of IDPA or IPSC. IPSC in particular requires more than a 1/16th or less shorter reset on a handgun to score better. A light trigger certainly has some advantages but those advantages are lost in an instant if the shooter just slightly bobbles a reload.

What I am trying to say is there is more to the sport than just shooting a gun. Some guns are just not in play to be reasonably competitive but the regular Shadow, 85 Combat, 75B, Beretta 92, Glock 17, M&P, or Sig 226 to name a few, in most hands are not those guns.

The "Orange" version may represent added value in terms of manufacturing costs (Or more likely a marketing ploy to leverage up a product for added profit), but for most the only advantage they will get is a better set of grips and for those who are honest enough to admit their skill levels aren't likely going to be able to advantage the tighter slide to frame fit or shorter reset then the only benefit they can see or will get are the Orange grips. In my view their heads are screwed on right and where they ought to be.

Happy New Year

Bob
 
Reviving an old thread... Did you all see the newly released Shadow Mate and Shadow Orange being advertised by reliable gun? $1,800 and $1,900 respectfully. other than the one additional mag and the color of grips, I can't see a difference.
 
Pretty expensive grips and trigger job. I bought the 75 Shadowline for $1,100 + tax. Aside from the grips and hammer the gun is the same gun as the SP-01 Shadow without a FLDC. The trigger is marginally better than a stock Shadow as I remember the one I had. I bought it because I could and I wanted the new frame offered in the traditional 75 dress.

If you want a Shadow Orange because you can go for it but you are not getting much for your money IMHO. Good on CZ for trying.

Take Care

Bob
 
what is the difference between all the CZ pistol models?
i know they are nice guns, my dad has a SP-01 shadow with rear target sites and its a really nice gun.
ive often thought of picking one up and i think i might, but i started looking at them and i cant tell the difference between them all.
well, the prices are different but even the CZ web page dosnt really say what all the differences are.

out of the ones i can see or have seen there are the normal models that we can see and get up here.

CZ 75 B $675
CZ 75 Shadow $830
CZ 75 SP-01 $850
CZ 75 ShadowLine $1100
CZ Orange $1275
CZ Canadian $1400

now the prices on there are just ballpark what i saw tonight.
so my question is - what is the difference?
what makes a Orange worth $400 more then a shadow?
cause the orange grips and base pads are not worth $400 i dont think, unless they massage your hands while you shoot?
so i assume we are talking difference in some internal work?

if anyone knows can ya chime in and let me know.

im just trying to decide if if i should just flip a coin between the $20 difference between a shadow or SP-01 or if there really is a reasonable reason to drop the extra $300-$400 for a shadowline or Orange or a Canadian for that matter.

I have tried the shadowline and mine is a SP-01 Shadow...no different at all beside the grip.

I also look of the Canadien and the orange but not worth to pay more just for the look, which is pretty nice but not enough for my wallet.

So IMHO, I would recommend the SP-01 Shadow best price for quality. not worth to pay more for others unless you want to look cool on the range.
 
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