CZ vs Savage

There is something to be said for pride of ownership, and you can't put a price on that. It's not just about the simple dollar amount vs results.

A Ducati may cost 50% more than a Japanese motorcycle, and they have exactly the same performance specs.

But when you're on a Ducati you feel better somehow, and when see a Japanese motorcycle you say "Meh, happy I'm not on that".

Owning a CZ will make you feel like you have something nice. Owning a Savage, even if you buy one of their better models, will make you feel like you bought the cheapest thing at Canadian Tire.
 
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There is something to be said for pride of ownership, and you can't put a price on that. It's not just about the simple dollar amount vs results.

A Ducati may cost 50% more than a Japanese motorcycle, and they have exactly the same performance specs.

But when you're on a Ducati you feel better somehow, and when see a Japanese motorcycle you say "Meh, happy I'm not on that".

Owning a CZ will make you feel like you have something nice. Owning a Savage, even if you buy one of their better models, will make you feel like you bought the cheapest thing at Canadian Tire.
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Hahaha ! Your comment is getting to me.. I have been motorcycling for about the last 37 years and had a Kawa 400, Suzuki GS 750 and Katana etc.. Now have Ducati GT 1000..This bike shure gets alot of positive comments and is a joy to ride... That being said, my Can Tire dont sell Savage BTVSS and it is a really nice rifle, and a tack driver ! I also understand the satisfaction of owning a quality piece of equipment.. CZ are worth the investment if you want a bit more of quality..
 
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I just bought a CZ 455 Canadian!!! can't wait to get it!!!

it's going to have to battle its way in and out of the safe against a customized Savage FV-SR, and a Norinco NS522!

Got some Winchester T22, CCI SV, CCI subsonic, Lapua SK, and Eley stocked up to have a shoot-off!

**maybe I should try the 1/2" challenge with each rifle with 2-3 different kinds of ammo and a couple shooters**
 
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Both are good choice.

I had a Savage Mark 2 TR a couples years ago and liked it alot.

Now I have a CZ 452 Varmint and its a keeper.
This little mighty rifle shoot better than me.

The Savage can shoot as well as the CZ but there is a little *something* about the CZ...





 
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Heard the same thing when the ladies were describing designer handbags and shoes.
Petamocto said:
There is something to be said for pride of ownership, and you can't put a price on that. It's not just about the simple dollar amount vs results.

A Ducati may cost 50% more than a Japanese motorcycle, and they have exactly the same performance specs.

But when you're on a Ducati you feel better somehow, and when see a Japanese motorcycle you say "Meh, happy I'm not on that".

Owning a CZ will make you feel like you have something nice. Owning a Savage, even if you buy one of their better models, will make you feel like you bought the cheapest thing at Canadian Tire.
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CZ for a 22 forsure, more expensive but oh so worth it.

Savage for 17. They shoot pretty much the same except the price is a BIG difference. (if you get low end model savage)
 
CZ for sure. Go head to head with a buddy who owns the savage. Both varmint thumbhole rifles. CZ quality 100% better. A new shooter will do better with the cz outa the box. Savage shoots pretty good with an experienced shooter at the trigger but the cz is rock solid for all shooters
 
I have both, a cz 452 varmint with a yodave trigger kit that is so nice light and crisp
The gun shoots amazing. I can shoot flys at 50 yards
As far as scope mounts I've used all kinds of different choices..
The burris signature Z is a good choice because you can play with offset bushings to allow more scope travel
What I have now is a 20moa rail from EGW and a set of lerue 719 quick detach rings which have a height of .885" and allow me to use a sightron 8x32x56 scope off my long range rig for true trainer practice
The savage I have started life as a FV and got a Boyd's tacticool stock which replaced the junk savage put on it
It also has a EGW rail and will for the sightron scope
I have less experience with the savage and don't think it is as accurate as my CZ
If I could only have one.... It would be my 452 I have never used a 455
And if I were worried about cost, the savage has the advantage
If you wanted something more "ready to go" look at savage TR
I should mention my CZ is bedded and the savage is not
And the biggest thing you can do to shoot as accurately as possible is try every type of target grade ammo you can get your hands on to see what your rifle likes. No two are the same
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Hahaha ! Your comment is getting to me.. I have been motorcycling for about the last 37 years and had a Kawa 400, Suzuki GS 750 and Katana etc.. Now have Ducati GT 1000..This bike shure gets alot of positive comments and is a joy to ride... That being said, my Can Tire dont sell Savage BTVSS and it is a really nice rifle, and a tack driver ! I also understand the satisfaction of owning a quality piece of equipment.. CZ are worth the investment if you want a bit more of quality..
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You do realize that a 750 is only slightly better than a 600! I've been on a bike just as long and the king of the hill for the last 20 years is the Suzuki GXS-R 1000. I've also owned Ducati's and Triumph's and they're nice but if you are on the track and you are teaching a lesson, you don't want to be schooled! As for the CZ vs Savage argument, I am not familiar with either because all I have are Marlins and Anschutz's. What I can tell you is that the guys at the base train with Savages, the most popular being the BSEV with the stainless barrel in .17hmr. CZ seems to hold their value better but those are my observations.

Oh and by the way... the guys on the base, the ones with the Savages, if they were to replace their rifles, it would be with an Anschutz and not a CZ. And the only rifle which comes close to giving Anschutz a run for the money is the Marlin 2000. If I have to choose between a CZ and Savage, I will have to flip a coin. The CZ with the maple leaf carved into the stock looks pretty cool but gimmicky.
 
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Oh and by the way... the guys on the base, the ones with the Savages, if they were to replace their rifles, it would be with an Anschutz and not a CZ. And the only rifle which comes close to giving Anschutz a run for the money is the Marlin 2000. If I have to choose between a CZ and Savage, I will have to flip a coin. The CZ with the maple leaf carved into the stock looks pretty cool but gimmicky.
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The maple leaf looks pretty cool and gimmicky at the same time, eh? There's a green CZ 455 made for Ireland with a shamrock carved in the stock. There may well be one for Australia, too.

The Savage BSEV is among the costliest Savage .22LR's, so it wouldn't make sense to the "guys on the base" to change their rifles for CZ's that are similarly priced if they are going to "upgrade," as it were. Perhaps the Marlin 2000 is the "only rifle" to compete Anschutz; unfortunately there aren't many of those around for anyone to compete with. Even then it would only be against entry level Anschutz rifles, wouldn't it? ;)
 
Don't have a CZ455 or tactical Varmint Savage. I've had Anschutz 1416 (set trigger), the single shot Anshutz built CIL, Marlin 981s, and 60s and a Glenfield Marlin 70, Winchester 190, various Cooey/Savage 64s, Stevens 87, as well as a Ruger 10-22. Maybe a few more that have been deleted from memory.

Have only kept the CZ 452 Varmint and Style, Savage MKIIF and MKIGY and Winchester 69A.

Accuracy wise, most of my 22s have been pretty close and depending on the phase of the moon and what I had for breakfast, any of the bolties I had or still have can outshoot the others. Even the Marlin 60s were impressive. The 10-22 looked cool with its folding stock, but couldn't hit the proverbial side of barn, most inept 22 rifle I've had. Must have been a Monday rifle. Seriously all it could do was 4 inch groups at 25 meters. Got rid of that one quick.

I kept the CZs (will probably pass them to my heirs) because I believe they are the easiest to shoot consistently well and I just love their design, build, overall handling and feel, fit and finish. CZs are easy on the eyes, my personal opinion only. The fact that dry firing CZs will not harm their firing pin is a big bonus.

I kept the Savages (don't think I'll ever part with them as well) because they are really good shooters that I don't mind getting banged about. The 69A is around because it shoots are well as the CZs and because it is a classic Winchester... would prefer a 75 if I could find a good one at a reasonable price.

So IMHO, the OP should get both. Most of us end up with multiple 22s anyways.
 
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