I just purchased one of these rifles and have fired maybe 3 hundred rounds.Just wondering the best way to clean this gun and if it needs to be stripped eveytime i clean it?? The cleaning kit it comes with seems to be pretty cheap.Thanks for the help.
CZ858-2 tactical???
- Thread starter Walnutz
- Start date
I bought a nice electric tea kettle for the gun (and making tea).
Once you get home from shooting, strip the gun and put the parts in the sink; boil water while doing this.
Pour the boiling water down the barrel and everywhere else (i.e. parts in the sink, trigger group, etc.)
To be extra cautious I boil up a second batch and repeat.
Once most fo the water has dried (usually quick) I very liberally put oil everywhere.
Before shooting I run a patch through the barrel.
Ta-Da~!
Once you get home from shooting, strip the gun and put the parts in the sink; boil water while doing this.
Pour the boiling water down the barrel and everywhere else (i.e. parts in the sink, trigger group, etc.)
To be extra cautious I boil up a second batch and repeat.
Once most fo the water has dried (usually quick) I very liberally put oil everywhere.
Before shooting I run a patch through the barrel.
Ta-Da~!
PerversPépère
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Shawinigan (Quebec)
What is mostly exposed to salts generated by the primers is the chamber and bore, the breechface of the bolt, face of the piston and its surroundings under the handguard (where you see a sooty deposit) and the thread protector near the muzzle (I clean it and put some lithium heavy grease on the threads so this can just be wiped down with a wet cloth on the outside).
Trigger group isn't exposed. You can, however, flush it from time to time with some RemClean then RemOil the works.
I have made an adapter with a 303 British empty brass that I resized with a 7,62x39 die then drilled out to accept a soft copper tubing with an adapter which receives a standard funnel.
I take off the handguard, the piston and spring then hang the rifle over a sink, push the funnel adapter into the chamber and pour a quart of boiling water down the barrel.
I plug the muzzle with a small cork then pour another quart of boiling water so it shoots out of the gas port.
I wipe the remaining water off, flush the works with WD-40 to chase the moisture out then proceed to clean the chamber and barrel, swab the gas port and piston recess with conventional Ed's Red in normal fashion.
I clean the inside surface of the handguard with Ed's Red on a rag.
Piston and bolt get the boiling water treatment with a few drops of dishwashing detergent (Sunlight) followed with WD-40 then wiping and oiling.
I put some heavy lithium grease in the piston's groove before remounting.
That's about it.
PP.
Trigger group isn't exposed. You can, however, flush it from time to time with some RemClean then RemOil the works.
I have made an adapter with a 303 British empty brass that I resized with a 7,62x39 die then drilled out to accept a soft copper tubing with an adapter which receives a standard funnel.
I take off the handguard, the piston and spring then hang the rifle over a sink, push the funnel adapter into the chamber and pour a quart of boiling water down the barrel.
I plug the muzzle with a small cork then pour another quart of boiling water so it shoots out of the gas port.
I wipe the remaining water off, flush the works with WD-40 to chase the moisture out then proceed to clean the chamber and barrel, swab the gas port and piston recess with conventional Ed's Red in normal fashion.
I clean the inside surface of the handguard with Ed's Red on a rag.
Piston and bolt get the boiling water treatment with a few drops of dishwashing detergent (Sunlight) followed with WD-40 then wiping and oiling.
I put some heavy lithium grease in the piston's groove before remounting.
That's about it.
PP.
it seams most of us do the same with some variation .
1. dismantle parts in a tray , place the tray in the laundry tub .
2. couple of pulls thru the bore with a brush to loosen the corrosive.
3. hang the receiver over the laundry tub , barrel pointing down to the parts tray.
4. boil water in a 1L electric kettle , once boiled add a few drops of sunlight.
5. pour down the barrel and gas block and trigger area, spillage is fine.
6. immediately dry with a rag and swab the bore a few times . its hot so use gloves.
then resume your normal cleaning.
1. dismantle parts in a tray , place the tray in the laundry tub .
2. couple of pulls thru the bore with a brush to loosen the corrosive.
3. hang the receiver over the laundry tub , barrel pointing down to the parts tray.
4. boil water in a 1L electric kettle , once boiled add a few drops of sunlight.
5. pour down the barrel and gas block and trigger area, spillage is fine.
6. immediately dry with a rag and swab the bore a few times . its hot so use gloves.
then resume your normal cleaning.
- Location
- Ol' North Shore
I read that Windex with Ammonia works just as well or better then boiling water.
PerversPépère
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Shawinigan (Quebec)
Sunlight (or any other detergent) breaks the surface tension of any deposit, thus easing removal by the boiling water.
PP.
PerversPépère
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Shawinigan (Quebec)
If there are any oily or greasy deposits, ammonia will take care of them and it might uncover salts under oil which would not have been dissolved by the water. Besides, ammonia attacks copper deposits too.
Boiling water works better than cold water because it can dissolve salts faster and unstick grease somewhat too.
Add some Sunlight detergent action and everything will be spanking clean.
One good thing with boiling water is that metal dries up very fast.
Just remember to clean then oil after that though or you'll leave a very dry and unprotected metal surface open to oxydation.
PP.
That's very thorough, but way more than necessary, IMO.
My method:
Disassemble rifle;
Spray windex down the bore and run a brush though it a few times and then clean bore as normal;
Spray bolt/receiver/other bits with WD-40 and wipe clean;
Grease and reassemble.
Never, ever had a corrosion problem.
it does seams thorough compared to your windex/wd-40 method but its about average for the water method . now what PP does is thorough .
the several minutes it takes for the water to boil , i dismantled the rifle, brushed the bore and waiting .
Over my $185 / 1200 rnd surplus??
I don't clean my rifle in any way that's different from any of my others.. corrosive or not. And I've never had a problem. And I put more ammo through it in a month that most in a year.. Just 'clean' it every time.
