czech ammo

[points]

most of eastern block rifles bores were chrome lined for that reason, it made them more resistant to the corrosive salts....they still needed to be cleaned... my father trained and shot the ak47 and he told me they would clean the rifles by immersing them in boiling water first and then clean the bores and get the rifles oiled...they were aware of the corrosive qualities of their ammo.. but then again, my dad said he went thru two rifles during his 2 year life as a conscript...they just didint care much about them... they were plentiful... completely different philosophy

Martin. Your view is the more correct one. Both my father and grand father served in WW2. Myself and 2 of my brothers served in the army, 2 of us as weapons techs and I can say with little caution that a soldier in battle on the frozen Russian stepps, would not have cleaned his rifle to barrack room standard after every firefight. When I served in the Canadian army, even the best trained troops only flushed the mud out of their rifles when in the field until they could get to a more hospitable enviroment. Then they would clean the hell out of them till they shone as new.
I ain't as wise as you lawyer guys but that is how I know it.

 

[cainesy]

I have to say, the Czech ammo I use has got to be the dirtiest I ever used. When I break my SKS down, everything is covered in a greyish/ black soot, making it a terrible job to clean. The bolt has to be completely dismantled to clean the pin and channel so it don't jam. Nasty ammo indeed. I can see why a barrel would become a sewer pipe in short order. Cheers.

 

[supernova]

Has anyone shot Tradex's Russian surplus X39? Im probably going to order a bunch anyways but would like to know how it stacks up against Czech in terms of fouling and accuracy

 

[AK]

Yes. As an former soldier, that is exactly what they do. Your rifle is your life. They were not lazy civilians who have ongoing debates to justify poor excuses and procrastination for not doing things properly. The fact that so many these old rifle are in such pristine condition is proof of the way they were maintained.

Given that most soldiers will have more downtime than a civilian who works his ass off for 60 hours a week to provide for his family I can imagine their rifles would be squeaky clean. I don't have the luxury of free bore cleaner and patches or the time to use as many as I like. If you want to make blanket accusations in rebuttal to a perceived slight against your character that no one actually made in the first place, I invite you to come over and do it in person. You can clean my guns while you're at it.

Attitude aside, thank you for your service.

 

[matty86suk]

After shooting czech through my CZ or SKS i will wash the small parts with hot soapy water, hot water down the bore, solvent patch, dry patch, CLP patch, then the bore snake a few times, every 3-400 rounds i will work the camber and bore over good, lube as required...

 

[LeeEnfieldNo.4_mk1]

The Czech stuff is some of the dirtiest ammo I have seen. I am guaranteed to use a complete rag for cleaning my SKS after a range trip. After the cleaning, its way to dirty to use on anything.

But you can't argue what you get for the price. Cheap, bulk ammo that will almost always go bang and, while not match ammo by far, will usually hit what your aiming at.