With my electronic hearing protection I can literally hear the ball cutting through the air when I shoot further distance. Must be how they spin? I know it sounds crazy, but I had another shooter try it out as well. The accuracy out of my 18in 870 is bigger than a pie plate at 25-30y. At 75 yards I might be able to hit a 2l bottle if the stars align and the hissing musket ball gravitates to it! But all jokes aside, they are still devastating in close quarters.