DA556 20" barrel question

PepeLapiu

PepeLapiu

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Hi.
Looking at the Dominion Arms
DA556 5.56x45 NATO 20" Rifle 1-9" Twist ($599.99 SKU: DA556A2A)
The description states that the rear sight/handle is fixed.
Does this mean it can't be removed or that it can't be adjusted for elev/wind?
And does that gun come with a receiver top picatinny rail?
 
PepeLapiu said:
Hi.
Looking at the Dominion Arms
DA556 5.56x45 NATO 20" Rifle 1-9" Twist ($599.99 SKU: DA556A2A)
The description states that the rear sight/handle is fixed.
Does this mean it can't be removed or that it can't be adjusted for elev/wind?
And does that gun come with a receiver top picatinny rail?
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It's a M16A1 style rifle. The rear sights are adjustable for windage, the front sight for elevation. There is no picatinny rail.

The M16A2 introduced elevation adjustments for the rear sight.
 
whenever you hear fixed carry handle that means it is an integral part of the upper receiver. if you want a detachable carry handle you need what is commonly referred to as an "a3" upper which is a flat top picatinny upper.

now if you would like a flat top 20 1/9 twist barrel AR for about the same price go to ellwood epps website and search SGW, they have a used one there for around 600.
 
Thanx guys.
I guess that rules out the following one if I want to mount a scope:

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/dominion-arms-cq-556-rifle/

The next one looks like the handle/rear sight is removable and is set atop a picatinny rail.

https://www.canadaammo.com/product/detail/dominion-arms-cq-a-rifle/

So I'm going to have to go for that one than. Too bad it's a 14.5 inch barrel.

Can AR parts be fitted onto these guns? If so I would eventually put a 20" barrel on it and upgrade the stock to a Magpul one. I did see the exact same gun at a local store and I really didn't like the adjustable stock on it. Finnicky to adjust on the fly.
 
You can do pretty much anything with the AR platform. Yes. A 20" barrel can be fitted. You will need to also look at a different gas block and gas tube. The 14.5 and many other barrels use a .75" gas block. If memory serves me correctly the 20" barrel uses a .625" gas block. A longer "rifle length" gas tube is required as well. Other than that it's about a 20 minute job to change, and then you would have to have your registration cert. updated.
 
Hmmm.
I don't think I would need to update the registration.
Only the lower receiver is registered.

If I have to change registration information every time I change barrels, we are in trouble here as I have a Sig P226 with 3 different barrels/slides/mags that can be fitted on to shoot .22lr, 9mm Luger, and .40cal. But the gun is only registered as a .22lr.
And I change calibers on that gun as often as twice per range visit.
 
Actually if you check, you'll find that if it is registered as a rifle it will have the barrel length listed. Or if it is a lower and you put an upper on it. Again, I'm working from memory, but I believe it states somewhere that any and all changes must be reported within 30 days, and the cert updated. I know guys that have different slides. I also know guys that have 3 or 4 uppers for their AR with different barrel lengths. They change them out at the range and shoot them, then change them back to what is on the registration for transport/storage. But you were not talking about changing uppers, but a permanent change of barrel length on the upper that comes with the rifle.
 
apage2112 said:
did you even check out the lever arms AR i suggested?

http://www.leverarms.com/rifles/semi-automatic-rifles/polytech-cq-a1-2391.html

That seems to be exactly what you are looking for.
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Yeah I did check them out. And it is precisely what I am looking for. But the web site states China as the manufacturer. Wanting to know who is the manufacturer and knowing that China is not it, I called them.

They pretty much refused to tell me who the manufacturer is. They kept repeating that it's made in China. And when I kept on pushing for an answer, the guy told me it's marketed by a company (don't remember the name).

So they list the country of origin as the manufacturer. And they than list the marketer as the manufacturer?
It's kinda weird and not a behavior I trust in a gun dealer. He was acting as if it was a crappy shameful manufacturer. So shameful that he couldn't bring himself to tell me who it is.

I just had a bad feeling about it and I'll just buy the 14.5 inch barreled one from CanadaAmmo.
 
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Furthermore the other gun is a 100$ more expensive than the CanadaAmmo one. Add shipping to that as CanadaAmmo ships for free.
I wouldn't mind paying the little extra for a gun I want configured the way I want. But that manufacturer thing just was a deal breaker for me. Not feeling they are trust worthy is all.
 
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KePet said:
Actually if you check, you'll find that if it is registered as a rifle it will have the barrel length listed. Or if it is a lower and you put an upper on it. Again, I'm working from memory, but I believe it states somewhere that any and all changes must be reported within 30 days, and the cert updated. I know guys that have different slides. I also know guys that have 3 or 4 uppers for their AR with different barrel lengths. They change them out at the range and shoot them, then change them back to what is on the registration for transport/storage. But you were not talking about changing uppers, but a permanent change of barrel length on the upper that comes with the rifle.
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You are the second person to tell me this.

Basically I can shot 9mm, .22lr, and .40cal with my Sig pistol. But I have to put back the .22lr kit on the gun before transporting or storing it. And not doing so is punishable by up to 2 years in jail on first conviction. Yet this does absolutely nothing to protect anyone from anything and there are absolutely no victims resulting from it.


This is a ridiculous retarded law. And it deserves to be ignored.
Whoever came up with it needs to be used as target practice.
 
PepeLapiu said:
You are the second person to tell me this.

Basically I can shot 9mm, .22lr, and .40cal with my Sig pistol. But I have to put back the .22lr kit on the gun before transporting or storing it. And not doing so is punishable by up to 2 years in jail on first conviction. Yet this does absolutely nothing to protect anyone from anything and there are absolutely no victims resulting from it.


This is a ridiculous retarded law. And it deserves to be ignored.
Whoever came up with it needs to be used as target practice.
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How does it end up working if your rifle is built off a stripped lower?
 
PepeLapiu said:
Yeah I did check them out. And it is precisely what I am looking for. But the web site states China as the manufacturer. Wanting to know who is the manufacturer and knowing that China is not it, I called them.

They pretty much refused to tell me who the manufacturer is. They kept repeating that it's made in China. And when I kept on pushing for an answer, the guy told me it's marketed by a company (don't remember the name).

So they list the country of origin as the manufacturer. And they than list the marketer as the manufacturer?
It's kinda weird and not a behavior I trust in a gun dealer. He was acting as if it was a crappy shameful manufacturer. So shameful that he couldn't bring himself to tell me who it is.

I just had a bad feeling about it and I'll just buy the 14.5 inch barreled one from CanadaAmmo.
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The rifle's manufacturer is one of several firearms manufacturers in China with Chinese names and designations that won't mean much to us. Companies such as Norinco simply market these firearms under one brand even though they may be made in unrelated facilities. This has been stated here on CGN many times.

It is very likely that Canada Ammo has their own relationship with these factories and so sells firearms under the Dominion Arms label, while Lever likely does something very similar which is why they are not forthcoming about the source and their guns simply say "imported by Lever Arms". I would not be surprised at all to learn they all come from exactly the same factory made to specifications. Take a look at the instruction booklets you get with these Chinese ARs.....


That being said you made a better choice, I think, in buying from CanAm.... I haven't had any actual "problems" with them and still shop there, but Lever is an "old school" gun store in the uncomplimentary sense.
 
Deckard said:
The fixed handle upper ARs can mount a scope if you add a cheap adaptor. People have been doing it for 40 years. Futong sells them.
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Scopes like a Burris AR 332 (3x) or 536 (5x) can be mounted directly to the carry handle without an adapter. You can also do this with an ACOG but that's not worthy of discussion when talking about a Norinco.
 
Lock_Time said:
The rifle's manufacturer is one of several firearms manufacturers in China with Chinese names and designations that won't mean much to us.
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It does mean a great deal to me. I did spend some time in Asian lately. And one thing I found out is that the Chinese have made it an art to copy everyone else and make cheap clones of everything. You can buy a Galaxy S5 or S6 in the Philipinnes for under 100$ on the street. But if it looks like a the real one, it barely can keep the time, much less make a call. Same goes for brand name jeans and jewelry, and a multitude of other things.

I just have come to distrust any China manufacturer, especially the 'un-named' or 'unknown' ones.
Norinco and Dominion Arms did start really crappy and took a while to get their quality up to par. And I already did buy a Dominion Arms lemon in the Grizzly Mag 12 gauge gun. So I now get very careful with anything from China.

BTW, might you be interested in a Galaxy S5 for a real good price? Still in the box, brand new.
 
NoTarget said:
You can also do this with an ACOG but that's not worthy of discussion when talking about a Norinco.
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Well, I had my heart set on a flat top AR. Already bought the scope for it too.

Why do you think ACOG are not worth the discussion on a DA gun?
From what reviews I read the DA556 is pretty much as good as the next one. Except for some tooling marks and a few things not being completely up to mil spec

Speak uour mind now before I spend the money for it please.
 
PepeLapiu said:
Well, I had my heart set on a flat top AR. Already bought the scope for it too.

Why do you think ACOG are not worth the discussion on a DA gun?
From what reviews I read the DA556 is pretty much as good as the next one. Except for some tooling marks and a few things not being completely up to mil spec

Speak uour mind now before I spend the money for it please.
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I own two DA 556 rifles, one 14.5" and the 20" version you're asking about and they both shoot very well so I have nothing bad to say about them. I just wouldn't purchase a $1250 ACOG to put on my $500 Norinco. If I had the money for an ACOG I could afford to put it on a better rifle.
 
the one listed at the other place has a detachable carry handle, and a heavier profile barrel than the one from canadaammo. looking at the receiver markings i would say its norinco. the "safe, semi" that is electro penciled into the receiver is identical, and cqa is what norinco calls their ARs.
 
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