Dagger SAP6 - Mag-fed 12-Gauge review

[Weapontech]

Well done Kevin, with many thanks - answered all my questions in one shot; (pun intended....)
I think I'd like one. Seems to be better engineered than many previous oddities that claim to be reliable.
I like it....

 

[diablo_man]

How does it look with the spare fixed stock installed?

And does that still qualify as a NR with the pistol grip only?

 

[Innercity]

Thanks for posting the pics!

 

[Weapontech]

So, I'll ask the question as I can't seem to find the answer anywhere....

Where is this shotgun manufactured?

 

[DAR 701]

It is manufactured in Turkey.

 

[Weapontech]

It is manufactured in Turkey.

Not by the same people who make the UTS-15 I hope....

 

[factionrr]

Thanks for the review Kevin, think Im going to order one up. Cheers

 

[Kevin M.]

It is manufactured in Turkey.

correct. The manufacturers website on google translate is pretty hilarious, reminds me of the early Norinco stuff.

 

[Weapontech]

correct. The manufacturers website on google translate is pretty hilarious, reminds me of the early Norinco stuff.

I can't find it......

 

[dangerous_goods]

Great review thanks for doing it! Shopping around right now but this is my number one at the moment for next purchase due in large part to your review.

 

[Blastattack]

On second recollection, IIRC from my early inspection of the gun, there is actually a milled slot in the top inside of the receiver, and some kind of lug protrudes from the bolt when the pump is fully forward, and will not retract by any force on the bolt, but only by pulling the pump handle rearwards, thus locking the action during firing. I will double check myself for any errors in my memory tonight.

That how just about all pump shotguns work. A small square lug protrudes from the top of the bolt into a locking recess in the receiver or barrel extension. The slide release's sole purpose is to prevent the slide from moving back before or during the firing process. Without a slide lock (or a spring holding the thing forward) the bolt could very easily be unlocked by 1/16" and the gun would not fire. Most firearms cannot fire until they are 100% in battery. Some bolt actions can be "shot closed", but the firing pin cannot contact the primer until the gun is at least 95% in battery.

 

[int3grity]

How much kick does this thing have shooting slugs?

 

[Kevin M.]

How much kick does this thing have shooting slugs?

Surprisingly low, that said I did not compare it directly to a standard design like an 870, so take that for what it is worth.

 

[slipper]

They look like ping pong guns with that spring.

 

[GIGGIDY]

Would you attribute the two bobbles you had while cycling the action in your original video to short stroking or something else?

 

[Ezesport]

Waiting

 

[GIGGIDY]

I'll try again. Did you just short stroke it twice in the the video or does it not feed reliably?

 

[crashcollins]

If you listen in the video he addresses that! You can short stroke it like he did because of the spring pressure.

 

[GIGGIDY]

he did on the first mag, I missed that.

Im just curious because I had a Fabarm with spring assisted fore end and never once had an issue with short stroking. Maybe this has more spring tension.

 

[Kevin M.]

Sorry, I missed your reply.

The first was a short stoke the first time, and it caused the shell to pop up at a funny angle, so I had to jiggle it for a second for it to straighten up. The second one was a bit different since the shell appeared to catch on the edge of the chamber, but again it was easily fixed, and I have not seen that happen again yet.