DAMAGE INC. CUSTOM CAMO NEWS.....Air Cure Gun-Kote!!!

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KG Coatings, the people who make Gun-Kote have just released an Air Cured Gun-Kote.:)

This is just new on the market and I have just recieved some samples to try out and test.

This air-cure Gun-Kote is supposed to withstand 12 hours in solvent without being affected (The Bake on Gun-Kote withstands 30+ hours in solvent).It is also supposed to withstand 200+ hours of sal####er spray (the bake on Gun-kote will withstand 1000+ hours).

I will be doing some of my own stuff as a test, and also coating some pieces to do my own solvent & durability tests.This should take a few weeks.

If this new Gun-Kote works out, I will be switching over to this coating.My pricing may change when final costs are determined.

Thx. SKBY.
 
My samples are somewhere in the mail...
Should make your life easier if the cure time is shorter Skullboy.
 
Striker said:
My samples are somewhere in the mail...
Should make your life easier if the cure time is shorter Skullboy.
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Says Approx. 70 to 80 mins cure time.:D

Heating the part will help along with baking under a heatlamp.

20 or so mins until dry to touch.

Plus it is water based.You can thin it and clean up (right away) with water.

I have the clearcoat as well to try along with their K-Phos pre-treatment.

SKBY.
 
I'm going to try the K-pos eventually..I'm very happy with the results so far though using their 2400 series finishes.
Looking forward to your test results and some pics.
 
OK, comparing the specs:

Salt Water Spray:
Armacoat 350 hours
A/C guncoat 200 hours

Solvent:
Not comparable with info I have. Depends on the solvent and type of exposure.

Can anyone post the complete specs of the new air dry product from GunKote?
 
Claven2 said:
OK, comparing the specs:

Salt Water Spray:
Armacoat 350 hours
A/C guncoat 200 hours

Solvent:
Not comparable with info I have. Depends on the solvent and type of exposure.

Can anyone post the complete specs of the new air dry product from GunKote?
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Even just at 200 hours, are you going to subject any of your firearms to a salt spray/bath????

The K-Phos Pre-treatmeant increases the exposure time.

The Bake on Gun-kote withstands 1000 hours of salt spray.

From what I have been told, the A/C Gun-Kote will withstand 12 hours soaking in MEK.

I will be doing tests with different solvemts and post the results.

That said, If Gun-Kote is good enough for the U.S. Military & Navy Seals, then it is good enough for me!!!;) :p :D

SKBY.
 
SKby, I'm not trying to diminish your services in ANY WAY. I'm just trying to look at the specs and see what the best product is for my personal use.

From what I can tell, the A/C Gunkote is fast to apply and almost as durable as Armacoat, which is Canadian and purports to be a little bit tougher, but requires a 3 week cure time as opposed to a 2 hour or so cure time for A/C Gunkote.

Am I missing anything?
 
Skullboy..what do you use for an air brush? I have a Princess Auto cheapo right now but I'm going to invest in a gravity feed 2 stage soon.
 
Striker said:
Skullboy..what do you use for an air brush? I have a Princess Auto cheapo right now but I'm going to invest in a gravity feed 2 stage soon.
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I use a Paasche VLS. IIRC, I paid $150.00 ish Cdn. for it.

It is a Double action gravity/siphon feed.I like the fact that the paint jars can be screwed on to the airbrush so they won't slip out.

I have been VERY happy with it.The kit comes with 3 needles & tips, 3 different size paint jars, gravity feed cup, wrenh, and braided hose.

http://www.reuels.com/reuels/product691.html

I went the cheap airbrush route to start with and learned the hard way!!!!:rolleyes:

SKBY.
 
What kind of pressure do you use with the airbrush Skullboy? I have the same model, and I'm trying to figure out what's the best pressure.

I've GunKoted stuff before, using about 20PSI... do you run higher or lower? I just dinked around with water until I got a 'good' spray...
 
Claven2 said:
SKby, I'm not trying to diminish your services in ANY WAY. I'm just trying to look at the specs and see what the best product is for my personal use.

From what I can tell, the A/C Gunkote is fast to apply and almost as durable as Armacoat, which is Canadian and purports to be a little bit tougher, but requires a 3 week cure time as opposed to a 2 hour or so cure time for A/C Gunkote.

Am I missing anything?
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Sorry, wasn't barking at you, I forgot to put the little "winky" emoticon after a couple of the sentances.;) :rolleyes:

The other coatings are a two part coating system.You have to ad hardener for it to cure/harden.

The KG-1200 is already to go out of the bottle, and since it is water based, it cleans up with warm water, and can be thinned with water.

Arma-coat says the for solvents, it passes the "double-rub" test.

A/C Gun-Kote states it will take a 12 hour soaking in MEK and various other solvents with no ill effects.

If you use the K-Phos pre-treatment, I you will get a longer exposure to salt spray.I woild guess with the K-Phos & Gun-Kote, salt exposure would be at least 300 to 400 hours similar to Arma-Coat.

As a Note, I am NOT knocking Arma-Coat as I have not tried it, but I have a local source on Gun-Kote, and I like the fact that it is ready to go without harders having to be added, or thinned.The simpler the better in my books!!!:D ;)

SKBY.
 
canucklehead said:
What kind of pressure do you use with the airbrush Skullboy? I have the same model, and I'm trying to figure out what's the best pressure.

I've GunKoted stuff before, using about 20PSI... do you run higher or lower? I just dinked around with water until I got a 'good' spray...
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The A/C Gun-Kote instruction sheet says to run between 30 & 40 psi.

With Krylon and the Testors paint I currently use, I run around 20 to 25 psi.

That being said, I would play around with the pressure to see what works the best for you.

SKBY.
 
Striker said:
That is a nice looking air brush. Stupid question for you..how does the gravity feed cup work? It looks like it goes on from the bottom.
Here is the one I was looking at.
http://airbrushcity.com/gd102.htm
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The Gravity cup does plug in the bottom.It pull the paint frol the bottom of the cup.When the cup is in, it sits off to one side.

IMHO & experience, go for a name brand airbrush (ie, Badger,Paasche, Iwata, etc).Almost every hobby shop I know of carries parts for the name brands.I could't get replacement seals from my Badger knock-off airbrush.

My buddies are big into airbrushing and that was the advise they had for me.

Buy once, but quality!!!!!!:D

SKBY.
 
Thanks for the advice. I haven't started looking in stores yet..the net is much faster! :D
I subscribe to the same philosophy in regards to tools. Mine have Snap-On,MasterCraft and Gray written on them.
 
Yeah, I kinda wonder about whatever the heck the "double-rub" test is??? They say something like the finish isn't affected by 20 "double-rubs" of a variety of solvents and that it's completely impoervious to gun cleaning products and oils.

I'd like ot see someone do a side-by-side acetone or MEK soak with Armacoat v. GunKote v. Duracoat. Anyone up to that challenge that's set up for all 3?

I'm in the process of having my 870 Express Armacoated and won't likely have it near anything other than CLP or Hoppes No.9 and machine oil, so it should stand up - but I'm still curious!
 
Claven2 A double rub practice test describes a solvent rub technique for assessing the solvent resistance of an organic coating that chemically changes during the curing process, such as epoxies, and urethanes. Before being placed on to a firearm, these coatings should reach specific levels of solvent resistance before being placed into service. Its basically a quick guide reference to show what the coating can do at a minimum. We have placed parts in our Lacqeur tanks and left them for 4-5 days after being coated and cured (cause someone wanted a different color) and all that happened was it seemed a little gummy but they got sanblasted and refinished again anyways.If you want for your test I can send you a Arma-Coat sample plate that is fully cured and ready to be tested.
 
Hi Murdoc,

That's OK. I'me having an 870 Armacoated anyhow, so I'll see this fall how it holds up under real use in the real world this fall :)

I'm sure it'll be fine though.
 
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