Damn ! I should have taken my time

Kevin R. said:
I have no clue... Since when are coyotes varmints?? I think you have no clue??

I have probably shot and or tracked more coyotes then you two guys have even seen,and through more snow then that. When they have a hole in them they are going to take you through the nastiest s**t they can. Sounds to me that he made little effort to go after a annimal with a hole in him, just because it's a predator does that make it right for him to die a slow death, and because "many people shoot em and leave em where they lie" does that also make it right?? I think not!

He knew the conditions were "sopposedly" bad before he went out, living around there has nothing to do with it.

As DVXDUDE says in his post, he tracked a wounded one for two hours. Thats putting a effort in, five minutes is not!!

KR
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Now I know your full of Crap, I can tell you I have far more behind me then you know and could ever amagine. Like anyone else less your disliking attatude, I have been a License trapper In Ontario and grew up with a family that trapped and hunted for centeries and have seen Bad hit animals and animals that are not hurt all that bad.

The whole idea of the thread was Unlike you and showed that I firmed up the deal and still called in a Coyote while I was in the field unlike the arm chair professional key board typer of someone that does nothing but BLOW the wind behind a computer screen and bash people that walks the talk.

Now do you really think that a Cotote really feels bad how a face like this feels when he grabs its body and runs to the woods to tear it apart and really does not care if he suffers or Not. It happened to this guy but I got a pic of him before he Died !

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NOT ONE BIT ! He's a Damn Predator, just like me ;)
 
Adrian J Hare said:
Now I know your full of Crap, I can tell you I have far more behind me then you know and could ever amagine. Like anyone else less your disliking attatude, I have been a License trapper In Ontario and grew up with a family that trapped and hunted for centeries and have seen Bad hit animals and animals that are not hurt all that bad.

The whole idea of the thread was Unlike you and showed that I firmed up the deal and still called in a Coyote while I was in the field unlike the arm chair professional key board typer of someone that does nothing but BLOW the wind behind a computer screen and bash people that walks the talk.

Now do you really think that a Cotote really feels bad how a face like this feels when he grabs its body and runs to the woods to tear it apart and really does not care if he suffers or Not. It happened to this guy but I got a pic of him before he Died !

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NOT ONE BIT ! He's a Damn Predator, just like me ;)
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I think he wa refrring to my inexperience Adrian... That being said, you are absolutely correect in that anyone who claims that level of yote experience would have a better grasp on their habits etc... Pure ignorance...
 
I don't care what you do to recover your game,it would have been better to say you tracked it and could not find it then to say the snow was to deep,the bush to thick.If it was a record buck you would look a bit harder I would think.
 
If Kevin r is who I think he is,he is the go to guy when people talk Coyote.I also believe he has a doctorate on animal husbandry or some thing.He has been under the wing of a outstanding coyote hunter from the Wallenstein or Arthur area I think he is a Frey(don't know first name).That being said it might not be him I am thinking about!!!
 
CROWCA said:
I don't care what you do to recover your game,it would have been better to say you tracked it and could not find it then to say the snow was to deep,the bush to thick.If it was a record buck you would look a bit harder I would think.
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feel free to stab away all you want. I tracked the animal to a point of decission and through my experence and situation I decided to back off. Your stories try to paint another picture, but as another thread on this forum I did follow on a shot that was the same situation but there was far more blood and it took me across a field into a barn yard full of thorn trees, down a hill and inbetween two round bales that were piled together in rows after rows. I recovered that animal with no problem.

I would guess that if Keven has the experence then that is fine, but there is no need to down grade a person for something under a situation that he has no idea of. The remark then clearly shows that these stories are getting under his skin. No matter who posts a thread unless it it total Bull Crap I would never reply to them and down grade them for a story that I was not there because why ? I don't know the situation.

Now your comment about leaving a monster buck. There is a difference here

1- I can eat it
2 - its a trophy unlike a Coyote....


Keven R - Please bring on your success stories because we all are here to learn from others success, were not all here to bash others success. Take it as you want...
 
We are living the situation through your words,which you posted.You have nothing to explain to me I posted I don't really care what you did or did not do......With your shorter legs the snow would seem deep.Before we all get upset I am making a joke!!I have meet you several times and you have helped me with a few specific turkey calls I was having trouble with.
 
Coyotes are more of a trophy than a Buck any day,I would rather eat a young spotted one.My opinion only!
 
Superbrad said:
If you want to spend your whole day tracking something that is no longer bleeding and never blead much in the first place then that is your business....

var·mint/ˈvärmənt/Noun: 1.A troublesome wild animal, esp. a fox.
2.A troublesome and mischievous person, esp. a child.

Coyotes are indeed varmints whether you choose to romanticize them because you hunt them or not.... they are overpopulated and taking a toll on other species and tehy need to be controlled.... shooting them and leaving them where they lay is perfectly acceptable practice.... I bring them to a local trapper so they get used but for those who do not have access to one ditching them is fine.... their carcass provides nourishment for other wild animals...
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A coyote is a Fur Bearing Animal/Mammal in Ontario. In the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act 1997 under Section 36(3) and Ontario Regulation 665/98 Section 134 speaks to when a pelt can be abandoned by a licenced hunter or trapper.
 
tracker said:
A coyote is a Fur Bearing Animal/Mammal in Ontario. In the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act 1997 under Section 36(3) and Ontario Regulation 665/98 Section 134 speaks to when a pelt can be abandoned by a licenced hunter or trapper.
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Yes... Indeed it does... And due to their abundance the mnr now considers them of "no value" ... As far as game law is concerned... They themselves want them gone or at least decreased... A quick call to your local co will let you know how they feel... That is what I did...I then followed it up with an email so I had proof...
 
If it was a buck, you would've gone in after it. Thats it, thats all. There is no reason to make excuses as to why your experience told you that it wasn't worth tracking. Just lay it out for what it is. It was a coyote, and you couldn't be bothered. No need to try and church it up. That is wholly unimpressive!
 
puting varmin in the same category as a edible game, briliant

the fact of a matter is there is one persone that was there, and made a call, right or wrong, a bit of ribbing would be in place but outright condemnation? based on what's seen on a couple of pix??
you guys are full of shit
 
I appoligise to all here if my experence lead me in a different direction from what you may think or would have done. I also appoligise for starting such a thread, as now I understand clearly why hunters don't talk about their misses and sitsuations that a animal may have been hit. Maybe I am the only one that has missed while hunting as I never read from anyone else that they could miss.

I will reframe from posting anymore of the down side hunts one may encounter to say the threads from going to the wrong direction. Please also excuse my opinion in the other thread in Turkey hunting, I in no way should have gave my comment on that issue either.

Good hunting

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Adrain, Good Stories, Great Pictures of success and scenery of where you hunt.
I tend to forget my camera is in my pocket till after the kill (should I be so lucky)
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
To bad there are a few PETA fans here under the guise of being Sportsmen and Women.
Just as a show of support I have added three more to my ignore list because doing this :ang3 would only get me in trouble...
I have no problemo dropping a coyote and leaving it where it lies, then again being in BC I may do things differently dam, I'm late getting back from my coffee break.
Rob
 
Based on the blood at the site, if there was not a huge trail of blood in the trees, I would have stopped as well. And we also treat coyotes as varmints here in SK. If fact there was a bounty on them in the last year or so.

They are shoot on sight where I live and the police shoot them if seen. They are so prolific they are coming into peoples yards, and there are a lot of small children here.

Good job and don't let this get you down. Keep doing what you are doing.

Shawn
 
You know Adrian, what a hunter does after a shot(tracking or not tracking) is a choice we all make based on the info at hand and the sum of our personal experiences.

If one looks at the situation after the shot and upon investigation comes to the conclusion to not track based on sign or lack of so be it. We have all been there.

No apology needed IMO but a nice gesture in the spirt of trying to get along.

You shot, you invetigated, you tracked and decided against going farther.

Good enough for me.
 
I followed it for a while and the snow was so deep and he headed into the thick bush with died falls I gave up on him.

I don't think any one cares if the coyote lives or dies but, I followed the coyote there was no sign I believe it was a marginal hit.That sounds a lot better than the above.
 
Adrian J Hare said:
I appoligise to all here if my experence lead me in a different direction from what you may think or would have done. I also appoligise for starting such a thread, as now I understand clearly why hunters don't talk about their misses and sitsuations that a animal may have been hit. Maybe I am the only one that has missed while hunting as I never read from anyone else that they could miss.
I will reframe from posting anymore of the down side hunts one may encounter to say the threads from going to the wrong direction. Please also excuse my opinion in the other thread in Turkey hunting, I in no way should have gave my comment on that issue either.

Good hunting

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I'm not about to judge anyone's actions, but I do have this to say. Most hunters don't want to admit to their misses cause all the "perfect" hunters chime in with the "you should reconsider your sport" and "I don't miss" mantra's. I had a terrible day last fall where I missed two, yes two, deer in ONE day. I felt like crap. I posted on here, got ribbed by the aforementioned croud (I did deserve some of it) and moved on. Since then I started keeping an eye on what people posted. Seems when some of these guys dig back into their past, they missed animals too. I posted partly to vent, and partly to fess up to my shortcomings. I didn't think I would ever miss either, cause I wouldn't let buck fever get the better of me, well I did. I had no problem saying how good a shot I was before, now I had to say how bad I was. #### happens, learn and move on, and don't take anything anyone says too seriously.
 
rhino519 said:
puting varmin in the same category as a edible game, briliant

the fact of a matter is there is one persone that was there, and made a call, right or wrong, a bit of ribbing would be in place but outright condemnation? based on what's seen on a couple of pix??
you guys are full of shit
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I put everything worth shooting and killing in the same category, wether I intend to eat it or not. If I opt to pull the trigger, I intend to follow it through to the end wether convenient or not. I have followed a wounded deer for hours through inhospitable brush and cedar swamp to finish the job, and I would do the same for a coyote. Seems to be a few guys just hunting for the hell of it these days. I have very little feeling for coyotes, and shoot every one that I see. But like any creature, they deserve a clean death. If you can't figure that out, your not a hunter your just a shooter without a conscience.
 
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