Damn those Finn captures can sure shoot

Claven2 said:
I like that you have one of the early magazine floorplates wit hthe checkered sides. You should remove it and loot for a small C in a circle - might be a Chatellerault part. That would be cool. Does the stock have inletting behind the trigger guard for an early finger rest?
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Do you mean the "C" might be stamped on the magazine in a position that is normally covered by the stock when inserted?

I did notice that on the bottom, in front of the screw holding the magazine in place, a stamp that looks like an "A". No clue what that means.

I don't see any stock inletting behind the trigger guard. ( I may not even recognize it if I saw it.)

I wonder if there are any good books about Mosin Nagants that might describe stamps, histories, Finns, etc. I found some nice web resources, but big fat book would be great.
 
1- Very good 3 book set on Finn rifles exist, but except for a few English captions on photos it is in Finnish and cost for a three book set in $400.00 USD or more.

- The Author is Markku Palogankas

2- A two book series on the 1891 Russian Mosin is available in German only a few English captions on photos also.

- Drei Linien Die Gewehre Mosin-Nagant by Karl-Heinz Wrobel

3- Also two small paperback books published in English in the USA.

- Rifles of the White Death by Doug Bowser
- Mosin Nagant Rifle by Terence Lapin

Will update with names of Authors and correct titles tomorrow, to late now must go to bed.
 
Try to find an old copy of Guns Of The World by Peterson Press. Printed in the mid 1970's, it has a VERY good article on the Finn capture rifles. Found my copy in a used bookstore for about 10 dollars. The picture and value section on it makes you cry when you see the 1970's valuation on some old rilfes. :|
 
As an Arms factory its functions were transferred in 1918 to Kovrov and Ishevsk, because of the possibility of the White Army getting their hands on it. Arms production ceased altogether and formally in 1922. Interestingly enough the Sestroretsk factory does still exist, being reconstituted as a tool works nowadays.

And contrary to what anyone at Tula wants you to believe, all the design, theory and formulation testing for the M1891 was done by Colonel Mosin as Sestroretsk. :wink:
 
Got my first ever MN couple weeks ago, an M27 Finn 1933. Nice diversion from my usual Enfields, Mausers and Ross's etc.
Whats a good handload for these things?. I cant bring myself to run corrosive through its minty bore.
Geoff
 
I don't reload yet (believe it or not) and it took me a while to get over the corrosive thing. I'm a bit religious about cleaning my family after they have been used and I have read too much on these forums from minds greater than mine who convinced me that corrosive poses no problem when one takes the proper steps and care and clean. So in short, I can't provide any good advice on handloads.
 
longbranch* said:
Got my first ever MN couple weeks ago, an M27 Finn 1933. Nice diversion from my usual Enfields, Mausers and Ross's etc.
Whats a good handload for these things?. I cant bring myself to run corrosive through its minty bore.
Geoff
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I was getting really nice groups with H4895 with some 180 grain bullets. I used data from the Lyman manual.
 
Bittermansbro said:
As an Arms factory its functions were transferred in 1918 to Kovrov and Ishevsk, because of the possibility of the White Army getting their hands on it. Arms production ceased altogether and formally in 1922. Interestingly enough the Sestroretsk factory does still exist, being reconstituted as a tool works nowadays.

And contrary to what anyone at Tula wants you to believe, all the design, theory and formulation testing for the M1891 was done by Colonel Mosin as Sestroretsk. :wink:
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Wasn't someone named Count Volkonsky the first in charge of the Sestrorestk arsenals? My own mother once met a young woman named Maria or Moïna Volkonsky during WWII. She was living very discreetly in southern France and when my mother spoke about her to General Chatiloff and his White Russian friends at a secret meeting in Paris, they went absolutely ballistic, saying "the princess, the princess!".
I don't know what became of her after the war. I'll have to ask my mother about this. I'm still collecting her stories about her life under german occupation.
PP.
 
I am not sure PP, Colonel Mosin was director till the first couple years of the 20th century, not sure who looked after things after that or before for that matter. Its fully possible Count Volkonsky may have been a directory at one time. Sestroretsk was the second oldest arsenal hailing from 1721. The only older Imperial arsenal is Tula which was founded in 1712. Ishevsk was around the 1760's.
 
schick said:
Claven2 said:
I like that you have one of the early magazine floorplates wit hthe checkered sides. You should remove it and loot for a small C in a circle - might be a Chatellerault part. That would be cool. Does the stock have inletting behind the trigger guard for an early finger rest?
Click to expand...

Do you mean the "C" might be stamped on the magazine in a position that is normally covered by the stock when inserted?

I did notice that on the bottom, in front of the screw holding the magazine in place, a stamp that looks like an "A". No clue what that means.

I don't see any stock inletting behind the trigger guard. ( I may not even recognize it if I saw it.)

I wonder if there are any good books about Mosin Nagants that might describe stamps, histories, Finns, etc. I found some nice web resources, but big fat book would be great.
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Don't know about the mag body itself, I meant the hinged floorplate which is detachable. Look for markings on it :) It's definitely an early one.
 
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