Daniel Defense M4 V7 - A Quick Review

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I recently got my new Daniel Defense M4 V7... a quick report. This one is chambered in .223/5.56 with the 16" government profile barrel (not the lightweight.) My intent for this rifle is to be an SPR-concept at the distances available at my local range, which has a max of 250 yards. My previous AR was a NEA-15 10.5", which I have since sold to a friend (which means I still get to shoot it - yes!) I have only shot NEA and Norinco AR's, so any opinions are based against that. I primarily shoot a custom rem 700 in 308 in a A5, mclennan barrel, jewel trigger, etc.

When I ordered this rifle I had high expectations. Having had my NEA for a year it was time to change things up. While I found the NEA great fun for plinking off of metal targets at any reasonable distance (100y, 200y) its accuracy suffered from the 10.5" barrel. Being used to higher precision rifles I wanted to do more. I picked the V7 because of DD's reputation. It has the new modular float rail which is fast becoming the new trend. They're lighter than the monolithic rails we usually see, offer more mounting positions and are frankly way more comfortable to hold. My plan was to add an optic suitable for both close range and longer range use, and settled on a Vortex PST 1-4x mounted in the Vortex ADR QD mount (a rebranded ADM, which are reviewed quite positively.) The Vortex/ADM has way more contact area with the rail and feels extremely substantial. A very solid mount (and it bloody well should be at over $200.)

The rifle arrived quickly from Wolverine Supplies (who are awesome as always to work with) and the BC CFO was fairly quick with this transfer (5 days, of course it probably helps that I emailed them.) Everything arrived extremely well packed. Included was a hard case, which is fairly flimsy. Frankly a rifle of this quality deserves a better case and I'll be looking into other options. With an optic mounted the rifle just barely fits into its case. The rifle came well packed and covered in a light film of lube, which was easily removed with a cotton cloth. The quality then immediately becomes apparent. The fit and finish are excellent, especially when compared with the NEA's and Norinco's I am familiar with. The upper, lower, rail are a perfect solid black color. There are no milling or machine marks to be seen anywhere. The barrel has a slightly different finish, which adds a nice contrast. The included flash suppressor is of a surprising quality and looks extremely well made. I'll find out its effectiveness later.





Functionality out of the box, the rifle clearly needs a break in. Cycling the action is gritty, and was much improved after a full field strip clean/lube and cycling the action a number of times. Out of the box the trigger is like most AR triggers... heavy, clunky and just not all that exciting to use. Having become used to my Jewel trigger I decided to buy a Geissele Hi-Speed Match Rifle DMR Trigger. After a somewhat tedious install (the supplied pins with the Geissele are precision machined to be slightly larger, and there was definitely an interference fit with the DD) I could not be happier. This trigger is incredible. Frankly I did not think a AR trigger could be so smooth and positive to use. Despite anything I may do to this DD, this will always be the single most important upgrade I will have ever done. To quote Ferris Bueller, " If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."



Up front is an Atlas BT10-LW17 Bipod which is incredibly well machined and a perfect match for the DD. Having several bipods already; Harris, Versa-Pod and the Rempel... this bipod oozes quality and is only slightly surpassed by the Rempel (which serves a completely different audience.) This thing means business, and is going to be my go-to bipod on any rifle I can install a rail on. It's that good and I haven't even shot it yet.



I'll be taking the DD to the range tomorrow to break it in and do a range report and I have high expectations. If this thing doesn't shoot well I will be very disappointed. Based on what I have read and what I've seen in my own - I have nothing to worry about. The only issue I have noticed so far is that LAR-15 magazines are an extremely tight fit. Some of mine are fine, some won't fit without a lot of force. PMAGS are fine. I have ordered a newer batch of LAR-15's and hopefully they fit better. As shown in these pictures, the rifle weights 8.8lbs. Badass.

If it doesn't shoot well, I suppose there always is a 18" match barrel from ATRS and I can turn this into a true SPR. Hey Rick!













I'm very excited.
 
Good teaser.

I want to build something similar but this model out of the box would serve my needs as I dip into scoping an AR.

When I get a DD this will be the model.
 
That's the one I'm jonesing for. Your trigger experience validates my concern about what people say about new AR triggers. I'll be running a Giessele SDE on mine.

Was it hard to install with the supplied pins, it sounds like you had a struggle, care to elaborate on that?
 
Man that is one ###y rifle! I've been looking into doing something like this minus the SPR part. Can't wait for the range report.

If there is one DD AR that I want this is the one. Now to save money....
 
Range Report!

I've put 300 rounds of different ammo down the DD now without any hiccups whatsoever. I've been running it quite wet with KG-4 oil and it's breaking in very nicely, the cycle of the action has smoothed out considerably despite there being very little visible wear on any components. There have been zero failures to feed, zero failures to eject and no failures to fire whatsoever. I've put a variety of different ammo down the pipe including bulk ammo with 55gr American Eagle and 55gr Norinco. The rifle has also seen Remington UMC, Hornady 55gr Z-Max and 40 gr V-Max as well as 69gr Federal Gold Medal Match. As expected the Gold Medal has shot the best, producing 2" groups at 100 yards shot off of a bipod using the 1-4 Vortex PST. I feel like the rifle should be able to do better than this. The Vortex has limited magnification and the recitle has a 1moa dot. I might try a different scope sometime to see if extra magnification and a different reticle will help. The bulk ammo shot terrible. Both the American Eagle and Norinco produced at best 6" groups and that was hardly consistent. The UMC was slightly better. Both the Z-Max and V-Max produced groups in the 3-4" range, with the scales slightly tipping towards the A-Max in favor. I have some other ammo on its way that I will test soon, 75gr Hornady TAP and 69gr Sellier & Bellot. I'd really love to get my hands on some 77gr SMK's, such as the Mk 262 Mod 1 but I have been unable to source any in Canada.

Overall I've been happy - the rifle is great fun and accurate enough as is at the distances available at my rage, but I want it to do better. I really feel like it should be capable of holding 1 MOA at 100 yards especially when shot off of a bipod. The rifle is light enough to have a lot of fun with off hand, especially when engaging targets at different distances - switching between the gongs at 50, 100 or 200 yards is a lot of fun.
 
Range Report!

I really feel like it should be capable of holding 1 MOA at 100 yards especially when shot off of a bipod. The rifle is light enough to have a lot of fun with off hand, especially when engaging targets at different distances - switching between the gongs at 50, 100 or 200 yards is a lot of fun.

Do you think the crappy groups have something to do with the 1:7 twist and 55gr bullet? or just poor ammo quality.

Thanks.
 
I think it's the crappy ammo. All non-bulk ammo shot much better. It's certainly possible that the twist rate was too fast for the crappy 55gr projectiles the bulk ammo is loaded with but I would expect any match grade projectile to work with the twist rate. The 75gr TAP and 69gr Sellier's arrived today so I'll get to test those out soon.

Would still love to try some 77gr SMK's or Berger's.
 
Thanks for the reply.

I have some 55gr S&B and some 62gr AE to try in my new DDM4 V7 I just bought and hopefully getting soon from Wolverine.

My XCR grouped pretty with the 55gr but it's got a 1:9 twist.
 
The DD has a chrome-lined barrel right? If you do go with a match non-chromed barrel, post how well it shoots!

Also, how does the norinco shoot compared to the DD? With the same ammo? Thanks!
 
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I just unboxed mine, pic in the AR15 thread. I can't wait to try it out. I have 500 rds of 55gr Federal for the initial break in.
 
Bloody nice rifle!

Nice to see someone setup a purpose built rifle & go out and enjoy it!

cheers,

Jason
 
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