I purchased a Garand M1D 6 months ago from Al Simmons Gun Shop in Hamilton. I've currently had some quality time to test it at the 100 yard range. I found it to be approx. 6" high and 6" to the right when the dials are set at zero. Is this due to the design of a battle zero at 300 yards?
Danish Garand M1D
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I just woke up so I might be wrong.
If you shoot it at 300yrds which is 3 times farther. it would be out by 18" both ways. The scope is on the left hand side and should be shooting around 3/4" high and about 3/8" to the Left for 100yrds. Are you sure it's a real M1D and not something someone copied with bad mounts and scope? It's just that I've never seen a Danish M1D, other members would be more of SMEs on that topic though.
If you shoot it at 300yrds which is 3 times farther. it would be out by 18" both ways. The scope is on the left hand side and should be shooting around 3/4" high and about 3/8" to the Left for 100yrds. Are you sure it's a real M1D and not something someone copied with bad mounts and scope? It's just that I've never seen a Danish M1D, other members would be more of SMEs on that topic though.
The rifle has a 1944 Springfield reciever, original SA stamped stock and the Danish stamped the serial number of the gun into the bottom of the stock. 80% of the parts are "PB" Pietro Beretta or "BMB" Breda- Brescia, which was common replacement parts since the Italians had all the Springfield Garand machinery after the war. Most important is the barrel that was rebarreled in 1952- Drawing number: D731 2555 A163 making it a real M1D.
About the scope zero, I guess someone must have moved the dials or something. Anyways it does shoot very well for an old rifle.
About the scope zero, I guess someone must have moved the dials or something. Anyways it does shoot very well for an old rifle.
"...due to the design..." Has to be sighted in just like any scoped rifle. Go here and download TM 9-1005-222-35. Free in .PDF format. It's the U.S. military manual. Note the need for the provided UN & PW.
"...does shoot very well for an old rifle..." Scary how accurate a 58 year old barrel can be. What ammo are you using? Hornady 168 grain HPBT's with IMR4064 shoot extremely well out of my 1903A4.
"...does shoot very well for an old rifle..." Scary how accurate a 58 year old barrel can be. What ammo are you using? Hornady 168 grain HPBT's with IMR4064 shoot extremely well out of my 1903A4.
"...ammunition used was..." Hi. Try some match ammo. Sniper rifles love it. Isn't cheap though. Neither are match grade bullets when you get that far. Hornady A-Max bullets are rumoured not to be as good as they should be. The 168's I use are their regular HPBT's. Not marketed as match bullets now, for some reason. Likely to sell more A-Max's.
"...the Army manual tip..." Great site that Biggerhammer. You might as well download the other M1 Rifle TM and FM's too. FM-23-5 has the trouble shooting info. Have a look at the Knob Creek pictures while you're there.
"...the Army manual tip..." Great site that Biggerhammer. You might as well download the other M1 Rifle TM and FM's too. FM-23-5 has the trouble shooting info. Have a look at the Knob Creek pictures while you're there.
You can change the zero of the scope adjustment knobs. Go online and look for a how to. I just did that...you back off an adjustment and can move the outer knob to zero. I just can't quite remember what I backed off.
I have 10 Danish M1D's and not one of them has Italian Parts, as they kept them separate. They all have all Springfield parts on the Springfield rifles and all mainly Springfield M1D parts on the Winchester M1D's, which are matching Winchester except for the M1D parts.
There were a lot of stripped M1D receivers here because the guns were stripped for parts kits for the US market in the 1980's. They could have been made into guns.
There were a lot of stripped M1D receivers here because the guns were stripped for parts kits for the US market in the 1980's. They could have been made into guns.
Hey,
I have an original Danish M1D as well. Springfield Jan 1943 reciever, June 1952 Barrel. All in overall Excellent+ condition. I searched high and low for information on the sniper's so that I could really learn about it and more importantly, the M84 scope. I finally found what everyone that has either an M1D, MC1 or M1C needs to know. It is found ONLY in the 1958 version of FM-23-5. I happened to find an original on ebay a year or so ago. Supposedly from a US Veteran from Vietnam! Anyway, go to the following site and you can download it for free!!! Along with almost all of the other previous and post copies of FM-23-5, and tons of manuals for most of the other US military weapons, tactics, information and other stuff!!! Ever wondered how to work that WWll flamethrower that you have in your basement??? Remove the space in the www and you are there! The first 44 pages are full of official edits an revisions. It actually starts on page 46. The section that you need to read for the sniper rifle (Specific to the M1C that uses the M84 scope, is in chapter 7 "Sniping" on page 208 in the actual manual or page 253 of the PDF.
w ww.90thidpg.us/Reference/Manuals/index.html
Hope this helps everyone that has one of these awesome rifles, or any other US milsurp for that matter,
Smitsauce
I have an original Danish M1D as well. Springfield Jan 1943 reciever, June 1952 Barrel. All in overall Excellent+ condition. I searched high and low for information on the sniper's so that I could really learn about it and more importantly, the M84 scope. I finally found what everyone that has either an M1D, MC1 or M1C needs to know. It is found ONLY in the 1958 version of FM-23-5. I happened to find an original on ebay a year or so ago. Supposedly from a US Veteran from Vietnam! Anyway, go to the following site and you can download it for free!!! Along with almost all of the other previous and post copies of FM-23-5, and tons of manuals for most of the other US military weapons, tactics, information and other stuff!!! Ever wondered how to work that WWll flamethrower that you have in your basement??? Remove the space in the www and you are there! The first 44 pages are full of official edits an revisions. It actually starts on page 46. The section that you need to read for the sniper rifle (Specific to the M1C that uses the M84 scope, is in chapter 7 "Sniping" on page 208 in the actual manual or page 253 of the PDF.
w ww.90thidpg.us/Reference/Manuals/index.html
Hope this helps everyone that has one of these awesome rifles, or any other US milsurp for that matter,
Smitsauce
Now that's a bit of an eye-opener.
I've owned quite a number of ex-Danish Garands, including an M1D. The Danes seemed to mix and match any and all USs and Italian Beretta and Breda parts on their rifles as a matter of routine. Parts are totally interchangeable.Other than my M1D, the only ex- Danish rifle I own that is devoid of Italian parts is a 1942 vintage Springfield with original barrel in stone mint condition. This is one of the Danish Navy rifles as identified by the anchor and 4 character number on the rear sight cover. It has a Raritan Arsenal rebuild-marked stock on it and looks about as fresh as the day that it left the arsenal rebuild line. My M1D has all US parts, including the M84 scope which is marked with the Danish crown/FKF/ serial number. The Danes habitually marked the rifle s/n on the bottom of the buttstock ahead of the lower sling swivel. My M1D has the s/n stamped on the top edge of the stock just below the op rod handle. Never seen that before.
An all-Winchester M1D, except for the unique M1D barrel, which was only made by Springfield, could be put together by sifting through enough parts. WRA stocks, op rods, and gas cylinders are a bit of a bear to find though. Original M1Ds were built on all of Springfield(the majority), WRA, and to a lesser extent HRA and IHC receivers without any effort to assemble rifles with parts from any one manufacturer. From an arsenal point of view interchangeable parts are parts as long as they are servicable.
