DCM Lottery M1D

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I thought I would post a couple of pictures of my new M1D. It was one of the lottery rifles from when the DCM was first selling them. Although it is a six digit serial number, meaning that it had to have been used somewhere, it was supposedly unissued after it was built into an M1D at the Tooele Army depot in the late 1960's. The rifle came with the original packaging and all of the accessories were also still in their original army packaging. It also came with a bunch of U.S. Army and DCM documents.

My next decision is whether to shoot it or not.

Oops, forgot to have the flash suppressor attached.

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Beautiful!

Too beautiful to shoot, museum quality!
Buy a lesser grade Garand and enjoy it, the one above is archival!
lucky guy.
 
Ho-ly-sh-it! That is one rare piece. If it has been fired I'd be tempted to put a few rounds through it now and then but if its unfired keep it that way.
 
Nice looking M1D. Tooele rebuilds are marked with the initials TE plus month and year of rebuild on the right front receiver leg. The marking was done in electro pencil.

Shooters should look at pic #7 to see that there is some clearance between the rear ring of the gas cylinder and the front handguard ferrule. If this isn't done a hot barrel will be bound up tight, not a good thing for accuracy, to say nothing of having the handguard crack from the flexing of the barrel in recoil.
 
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The old dilemma of whether or not to shoot a collector's piece. Rifles are made to be shot. To not do so would be like having Miss Canada as a GF, and then just being happy to hold hands with her. Remember, if you don't shoot it somebody else will.
 
Man that would be tempting to shoot it. Just remember, if it is in unfired condition, you will bring down the re-sale value significantly if you do shoot it.
 
M1D's sold in Canada for $250 not so long ago(at least it doesn't feel like it. Probably 20 years.). They still don't demand the same kind of money here that they do Stateside. You wouldn't be able to get it back there anyway. I'd shoot it. 168 grain match bullets with IMR49064.
I think the cheek rest is a repro. Doesn't fit right. And the ding on the front hand guard needs steaming. Funny how they refinish the whole thing except the gas tube.
 
I would leave the front handguard and gas cylinder alone. That's the way it came from the arsenal and it was released in serviceable condition. Arsenal overhauls basically re-worked a rifle to as new condition, but they weren't totally slavish about cosmetics.
 
Most of Districorp m1d rifles were turned into parts kits. Scopes and flash hiders were also sold . All scopes were Danish marked.
 
If I could be so rude, what is a rifle like this worth roughly? If you don't want to say how much you paid that's fine, just curious to what kind of price range they are in.
That is a BEAUTIFUL gun, I wouldn't shoot it if it is unshot.. I would buy another and shoot that one.
 
A very nice historic piece. I had the same dilemma with a factory original mummy wrapped, post-WWII Lee-Enfield No. 4 MK. 2 rifle and it's No. 9 Mk. I bayonet. There are many other rifles to shoot and I chose not to shoot it and sold it to a collector who collects unfired military rifles. I worked in museums for 40-years, mostly as a Curator, and I appreciate history. I would like to see your M1D kept as is - as it is is much more rare that way. Also, it's being documented with DCM papers makes it unusual in Canada.

American collectors are so suspicious of any M1D without DCM or CMP papers and for good reason as they are so easy to create and can be indistinguishable from government converted M1D rifles. Many of those M1D that were in Canada were reportedly broken up into kits and exported to the USA where people assembled them onto recievers and thus had an undocumented M1Ds ... Just one that had never existed with those rifle serial numbers. This justifiably annoys Canadians, as a bunch of original M1D rifles are in Canada, also returned from Denmark, but they do not have the aftermarket US DCM or CMP paperwork since they came to Canada directly from Denmark etc. whereas the DCM and CMP M1C and M1D went direct to the DCM or CMP in the USA from Denmark etc. and then were sold to the public with papers. The DCM and CMP were middlemen, but they did at least certify that these were legitimate US government sniper rifles, albeit as modified by foreign militaries.

One can argue that toys are meant to be played with, yet some collectors cherish those toys that are NIB (new in the box). Everyone loves jeeps and many were crated during WWII for shipment overseas. Today there is not a single WWII jeep still in the crate -- other than those at the bottom of the ocean -- as they were all played with. Your M1D is a lovely item and I would love to have it in my collection. :)

As you know the value in the USA is irrelevant in Canada as the rifle cannot be imported into the USA.
 
There was also the Norwegian M1D's that Century brought in to Canada around 1980-81. These supposedly arrived in Springfield Armoury Shipping crates with the serial #s of the rifles on the crates. There were 2 lots in Norway that were being bid on. One lot contained the rifles, the other contained the scopes and mounts. Century had the winning bid for the rifles, and Sherwood International in Northridge CA. had the winning bid for the Scopes and Mounts.
I bought mine complete from the Estate of a local collector who had purchased it back in 1981 from Lever Arms. Apparently Lever Arms bought some rifles from Century, and some scopes and mounts from Sherwood Int'l and reunited them. With the Rifle came the original bill of sale, the purchase price from Lever Arms was $650.00.

A very nice historic piece. I had the same dilemma with a factory original mummy wrapped, post-WWII Lee-Enfield No. 4 MK. 2 rifle and it's No. 9 Mk. I bayonet. There are many other rifles to shoot and I chose not to shoot it and sold it to a collector who collects unfired military rifles. I worked in museums for 40-years, mostly as a Curator, and I appreciate history. I would like to see your M1D kept as is - as it is is much more rare that way. Also, it's being documented with DCM papers makes it unusual in Canada.

American collectors are so suspicious of any M1D without DCM or CMP papers and for good reason as they are so easy to create and can be indistinguishable from government converted M1D rifles. Many of those M1D that were in Canada were reportedly broken up into kits and exported to the USA where people assembled them onto recievers and thus had an undocumented M1Ds ... Just one that had never existed with those rifle serial numbers. This justifiably annoys Canadians, as a bunch of original M1D rifles are in Canada, also returned from Denmark, but they do not have the aftermarket US DCM or CMP paperwork since they came to Canada directly from Denmark etc. whereas the DCM and CMP M1C and M1D went direct to the DCM or CMP in the USA from Denmark etc. and then were sold to the public with papers. The DCM and CMP were middlemen, but they did at least certify that these were legitimate US government sniper rifles, albeit as modified by foreign militaries.

One can argue that toys are meant to be played with, yet some collectors cherish those toys that are NIB (new in the box). Everyone loves jeeps and many were crated during WWII for shipment overseas. Today there is not a single WWII jeep still in the crate -- other than those at the bottom of the ocean -- as they were all played with. Your M1D is a lovely item and I would love to have it in my collection. :)

As you know the value in the USA is irrelevant in Canada as the rifle cannot be imported into the USA.
 
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