DD or BCM LPK

Kidd X said:
And here's the part you failed to mention. "My teammates and I preferred two-stage triggers to shoot accurately at long ranges without the light trigger liability of a single-stage at close range." The author and his teammates would work around the two stage issues for up close work but preferred them for LONG RANGE shooting. Action shooting/3 gun does not involve long range shooting, in fact the majority of shots at a match are 100 yards and less. The amount of longer shots is very minimal.
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I guess face shooting dudes in the same room as you are doesnt count eh. Talk about reading comprehension fail or willful blindness. Give it up.

His point is the 2 stage works for long range and just as well for close range. Do you know what CQB is? It is not long range shooting.
 
Sinasta said:
I guess face shooting dudes in the same room as you are doesnt count eh. Talk about reading comprehension fail or willful blindness. Give it up.

His point is the 2 stage works for long range and just as well for close range. Do you know what CQB is? It is not long range shooting.
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Again more failure to comprehend and/or read. Nowhere did I say that we are talking about long range shooting. I mentioned the author of the article preferred a two stage trigger(as did his other teammates) for LONG RANGE shots, they also said it worked for CQB as well. For action shooting/3 gun you are NOT SHOOTING AT LONG RANGE, hence the comment about a two stage offering very little if any benefit to the shooter.
 
84wh1 said:
Hey guys,

Im building a CC rifle with an IUR upper and a CC lower. I am debating between using either the DD lower parts kit or the BCM one. The BCM is about 75$ more but comes with a few upgraded parts (trigger and grip) that the DD doesnt come with.

Anyone have any input on either of these 2 LPK's?
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I'd recommend getting the LPK from Brownells. They sell 'mil spec' completion kits less the grip and trigger for $30 US. Use the savings to buy a good quality trigger and a pistol grip of your preference and that you'll actually want to use, instead of buying a kit with an A2 that will sit in the parts box.
 
Kidd X said:
Again more failure to comprehend and/or read. Nowhere did I say that we are talking about long range shooting. I mentioned the author of the article preferred a two stage trigger(as did his other teammates) for LONG RANGE shots, they also said it worked for CQB as well. For action shooting/3 gun you are NOT SHOOTING AT LONG RANGE, hence the comment about a two stage offering very little if any benefit to the shooter.
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You said this. But I know your response is going to be "I said precision not long range". When in fact everyone reading this knows you meant long range work.
Kidd X said:
As for triggers, a 2 stage trigger is great for precision work but is not ideal for action shooting or rapid firing.
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Author of the article says he doesnt buy into the fact that 2 stage is less than ideal for CQB. Anyways I'm done with you. You are denser than a black hole. You're worse than TDC.
 
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No. Colt Canada actually has and uses Colt and Diemaco stamped trigger parts.
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I'm not going to pretend that I've seen every Colt Canada/Diemaco part ever made, but the Colt Canada triggers I've seen are marked "S" inside of a square, as are DD triggers. Colt USA too I believe. They're available for sale through Nordic Marksman as take off parts: http://www.nordicmarksman.com/Trigger-Assembly.html They're made by LW Schneider (which is where the "S" comes from) http://www.lwschneider.com/ FWIW, Colt Canada also didn't make my IUR receiver or lower receiver in house although that's not to say they didn't/don't do finish work on them.
 
They must build rifles with parts from a lot of different places, all my triggers have the Diemaco D on them and I've got Colt C disconnectors.
 
http://www.lwschneider.com/index.html

This is where Colt USA and Colt Canada is currently buying the trigger parts from. I even asked and that's what they told me. They have stop doing it in house. Daniel Defense also buys their parts from them. I have seen some STAG LPK with them and some with out. If you want to build a Colt Canada stripped lower and build it exactly like they do at the factory use a Daniel Defense LPK.
 
I visited their plant earlier this year and their workload has tripled or something because they were tooling up to build complete C6s (probably haven't started yet), they're building/assembling/finishing C19 Ranger rifles, are rebuilding older C6s because of the loose rivets and oval rivet holes, and just rebuilding a lot of guns in general I guess. Not to mention runs they do for other countries nowadays and civilian sales. It makes sense that they would start sourcing things from the outside, they are still relatively small for the volume of stuff they put out and the top quality of their work that they end up doing.
 
Re: LwSchneider, check the marking on the ALG/Geissele LPK.
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Sinasta said:
You said this. But I know your response is going to be "I said precision not long range". When in fact everyone reading this knows you meant long range work.




Author of the article says he doesnt buy into the fact that 2 stage is less than ideal for CQB. Anyways I'm done with you. You are denser than a black hole. You're worse than TDC.
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You seem to be greatly confused, the thread is not discussing long range, the article mentioned it. I also mentioned the distinct lack of lock range shots in action shooting/3 gun. You would be correct and incorrect when I mentioned "precision" it generally refers to long(er) range shots and the ability to place rounds where you desire. A certain amount of precision is needed(obviously) for any shot be it short, medium, or long range. What seems to allude you is that a two stage trigger excels at distance shooting where higher levels of precision are required. A two stage at short range is of no benefit and may even be a net negative due to the possibility of slapping the trigger. So, if a two stage trigger is excellent for long range/precision shooting and action shooting/3 gun has near zero long range shots, it would only make sense that a two stage trigger is not IDEAL for such disciplines. To further reinforce my point the author of the article clearly stated that a good single stage trigger is not a bad option, it simply wasn't what was preferred by his team.

Either way I don't really care what people use just be aware of the pros and cons of each. A quality trigger of either style is necessary but the super duper uber trigger is far from necessary to be effective. Geissele makes great triggers but they cost a small fortune. The performance gains are minimal and are all but lost on novice shooters.
 
The "ss" markings denote LW Schneider whom makes the best milspec and proper parts kits.

This is the only brand I will use whether straight from them or rebranded.

DD.
COLT.
BCM
ARMALITE.
Etc.

They all use this company. This is where low end hobby guns differ.

Low end like Bushmaster, SW, DPMS don't always have these LPKs.

Geissele/ALG/BCM use these trigger groups but then add their magic fairy dust and precision workmanship.
 
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