Deactivating AR15. Possible?

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I am wondering if it is possible to deactivate the lower receiver of an AR15, so that I could have a "toy" to play around and leave at the corner of my room without the need of double locking it.

What are the requirements for doing this?
 
Well I think to deatctivate it, you'd have to weld the bolt shut, since that chambers the ammo, and ultimately holds the firing pin.

Im no expert, but it just seems logical to me.

As for the lower, a stripped lower should suffice or maybe a shaved hammer so it can't strike the firing pin.

Either way because it can be 'halved' i can see a lot of issues with the local constabulary.
 
I would love a deactivated ar to play with, but for neutering that one, I would have to buy at least 3 functional ones to make up for it :p
 
The lower is registered/restricted. To get it deregistered, you are going to have to abide by the policies of the powers that be. Call them.
I suspect that if you were to use a non-functional lower adapted from an unfinished lower, the result would be deemed to be a replica - a prohibited device.
 
For typical "#### and click" deactivations (AK, FN etc.), three things need to be done:

- Shave bolt or breach block face so it cannot support a cartridge
- Insert blind pin through the chamber and weld over
- Prevent disassembly...for example in the case of an FN, a simple weld over the back of the take down plunger, behind the stock would suffice.

I think if you try and build something up from 80% and simply not complete it or modify it, it will definitely be a grey are between replica and deactivated. For something to be "deactivated" it must first be "activated".
 
angryeyebrows said:
For typical "#### and click" deactivations (AK, FN etc.), three things need to be done:

- Shave bolt or breach block face so it cannot support a cartridge
- Insert blind pin through the chamber and weld over
- Prevent disassembly...for example in the case of an FN, a simple weld over the back of the take down plunger, behind the stock would suffice.

So this may sound like a newbie question but...if you can still deactivate to a #### and click standard why do I see some many ads in the EE that state a decativation is old and the gun cocks and clicks? I've seen deacts that have a solid trigger. Just curious and you seem to be in the know.
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toxic said:
So this may sound like a newbie question but...if you can still deactivate to a #### and click standard why do I see some many ads in the EE that state a decativation is old and the gun cocks and clicks? I've seen deacts that have a solid trigger. Just curious and you seem to be in the know.
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Maybe you can't anymore. It's been a while since I've talked or even though about deactivations. Probably a good question to pose to a competent gunsmith who stays up on this sort of thing.
 
RCMP do not like #### and clicks, I don't think they're approving those anymore at all, for a few years now. Trigger mech basically gets welded in place.

I did have the guideline at one point but it was ridiculous, even wanted the mag welded to the rifle so it couldn't be removed. However, it is just a guideline, but try and get it approved these days without doing everything on the list.
 
You would have to weld the upper to the lower so it cannot be opened and bolt removed. You also need to make the bbl non-removable so maybe weld the bbl mnut to the bbl. You also have to pin and weld the chamber and grind the bolt face away.

Doable for certain, but you need to find an aluminum TIG welder.

Probably also have to weld the castle nut to the end plate to prevent the bolt being removed out the back of the lower.
 
Pick up a Gas blow back Airsoft gun.. full weight, same function, blow back operation ( about as much felt recoil as a .22lr) and you can shoot it in the house!

Some guys build a Airsoft Copy of their "working gun" so that they can do off range handling and shooting. You can build something that has pretty much the same weight same handling ( and operation ) as a real AR without any of the complications of deactivated or replica issues.
 
angryeyebrows said:
Maybe you can't anymore. It's been a while since I've talked or even though about deactivations. Probably a good question to pose to a competent gunsmith who stays up on this sort of thing.
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The RCMP DID change the rules a year or 2 back.
#### and click is now non acceptable. EVERYTHING needs to be welded. The gun needs to truly be butchered which is ridiculous, many Dewatts were for display or educational use, all that 1 can learn now is that it was a gun and now it is totally destroyed, and no-one displays scrap metal.
Most de-activations now require an RCMP inspection as well.
We have quit doing them.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
The RCMP DID change the rules a year or 2 back.
#### and click is now non acceptable. EVERYTHING needs to be welded. The gun needs to truly be butchered which is ridiculous, many Dewatts were for display or educational use, all that 1 can learn now is that it was a gun and now it is totally destroyed, and no-one displays scrap metal.
Most de-activations now require an RCMP inspection as well.
We have quit doing them.
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Thats really a shame! I was originally thinking that some sort of drilling and welding of the lower is all that is needed, so that I could slap an upper onto it and do not need to treat it as a real "firearm".

I guess I shall go the airsoft clone way.

Thanks for the info everyone!
 
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