Dealers Restricting powder and primmer sales?

I recently bought powder and primers at a semi local place, about 15lbs of powder and 4000 primers to split between myself and my brother. The lady that was putting everything together for had to ask one of the other guys if they were rationing primers yet, apparently it was going to happen soon. In my case I just bought another rifle to reload for and didn't have more than a 1/2 lb of suitable powder at home, and my brother doesn't shoot that much, but I told him how bad things were getting as far as being able to find stuff, so he's basically stocked up for the next 5 or 10 years now. Not everyone that's buying in decent quantities is hoping to gouge others later on.
Kristian
 
jethunter said:
Yeah I'm aware of all that, and is why I was questioning Madcow when he said $55 lb powder is gouging, apparently he sells quite a bit cheaper.

Edit: I see the "gouging" remark is gone, probably for the best.
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I just know what I recently purchased my inventory at last month, and no way I could justify those higher prices, and if the inventory is older it should still be cheaper.

I know some retailers got caught with their pants down as they didn't watch what was happening in the USA. unfortunately, those prices are passed on to the consumer. Good deals can still be had, check out you local shops, you will be amazed what they have for old stock.

Jethunter: yes those prices are high, even some other sponsors "known" to have low prices have gone much higher. I have seen CCI SP primers on sale for $66.00 from $79.99. I took out the "gouging" comment because they were limiting numbers allowed. If they weren't I would have left it in my comment. but there is definitely some places taking advantage of this situation.
 
We've known about the hoarding and shortages in the US for almost a year. And even before that we knew it happens every 4 years at US election time. I was advising people to buy some extra reloading supplies 2 years ago when the prices and availability were good.

Anyone who can read and is over age 25 knew ahead of time there could be shortages when the US got close to an election because there usually is. It's not rocket science.

But nobody anticipated COVID and DEFUND-THE-POLICE movement hitting at the same time Americans were getting nervous about DEMOCRATS-MIGHT-TAKE-MY-GUNS. So anyone that waited until now could be out of luck for a while.

You snoozed, you losed.
 
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jethunter said:
We've known about the hoarding and shortages in the US for almost a year. And even before that we knew it happens every 4 years at US election time. I was advising people to buy some extra reloading supplies 2 years ago when the prices and availability were good. Because we knew ahead of time there would probably be some shortages when the US got close to an election because there usually is, and this is not rocket science. But we just didn't count on a perfect storm with the panic from COVID and DEFUND-THE-POLICE movement all hitting at the same time Americans were getting nervous about DEMOCRATS-MIGHT-TAKE-MY-GUNS. So anyone that waited until now could be out of luck before long.

You snoozed, you losed.
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Ditto
 
MikeD81 said:
I hear what you are saying and I don't disagree with you but I think they are trying to combat hoarding. I guess for me it all comes down to free market enterprise. They can run their business the way they want and you can shop from whoever you want.
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I too agree with your diagnosis ....
At least they are being up front with customers.
Rob
 
I've got a ton of powder and primers, been "hoarding" for years. I'll usually buy something every time I go to the store and they have something in stock I can use or hope to use.

8lb kegs, dozens of 1ib containers, cases of 5000 primers, you name it ill buy it if I see it.

It's a free market and now that I've got quite a stockpile, I don't really need anything now during this shortage at a drastically inflated price.

Given the way they US market is going, you'd be wise to pick up whatever you can find, even if the store imposes a limit. Ammo, powder, primers and brass NEVER go down in price, so it's also a wise investment in the long term.

Also, I'm getting ready for my two young kids to start shooting as much as I did as a kid.. would cost me a small fortune to keep up with them if I didn't already have it in reserve.
 
They are also trying to curtail US dealers/brokers buying up all the Canadian primers and shipping them south. Something like half a million primers have been bought in Canada to sell to the US market.
 
What’s the so called markup? If you are that hard up for lot consistenty then suck it up and sped the money on the premium. If not then go elsewhere. Or better yet. Go fire you your own reloading business. I wouldn’t be against you selling me the cheapest best deals that Canadian market has to offer.
 
Take it easy bud, you’re not wrong but the rant is borderline Karen. They don’t want guys to hoard everything and then have nothing left to sell other customers.
 
Thats not for dealer to play the business police. They exist to buy and sell.
Dealer acting that way end up in my list of - never buy from them anything - ever.
We are supposed to be in a free country...free trade. There is enough restrictions on guns - no need for dealer that ask to be supported to shxit on customer that way.

I shoot 15000 rounds a year. If I buy two case of 5000 primers..I am hording ? This is BS.
What about group purchase ? My friends and I ordered powder were we could find it in quantity to cover our need.

Were will it stop ? Bullets -Ammo - only a box by client ? got two SKS -you can only buy one ? Got only one Ruger 1911 cannot sell it to you - only local guy ?
When you start playing with customers - you loose them.

Send a clear message - boycott dealer limiting your freedom and purchases.
 
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For a lot of people the whole universe is about themselves, look further than 5 inches ahead.
 
bronco_mudder said:
Remember that when it comes to pipelines...and I don’t mean the pipes that Montreal uses to dump sewage into the St. Lawrence.
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Manitoba’s towns and villages around the Lake are dumping #### load of everything from pesticide to sewage in the lake.....
 
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franktank said:
For a lot of people the whole universe is about themselves, look further than 5 inches ahead.
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We all look for ourselves and our need.
Make me believe that when there is one item left of the shelves you need, you leave it there for the greater good of others...BS.

You should be more happy..guy like me will not buy from those dealer..you can go Beg your share of the box of primer they will ALLOW you to buy..in the mean time, many like me keep on buying primer and components by the box..not to hoard them..to shoot them.
 
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I find the number of personal attacks and name calling of the OP appalling.
I believe the whole point and context of the message by the OP has been overlooked in favor of personal attack.

As a handloader and target shooter, I totally understand the OP's opinion and statement. For instance, One pound of US869, will net me 58 cartridges for my rifle. Though one or two pounds is sufficient to work up a load, it is hardly more than enough, for more than a day or two of long range shooting at 1000 plus meters.

It is understood, by my interpretation of the OP's post, that he is just stating, that he believes a single lot of eight pounds to be more in line with a reasonable amount and that he will be dealing with like minded businesses. The purpose was to bring attention to the fact, that this business has decided that they will decide how much is too much. Hoarding will always be a problem. It's human nature.

Besides the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) campaign encourages everyone to set up a zombie apocalypse kit consisting of all the supplies you’d need in the event of a global catastrophe, a localized outbreak of brain-eaters or something more pedestrian.
 
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