dealing with roadhunters
- Thread starter kevin.303
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This is exactly what a road hunter tells the CO when they are stopped. "No officer I'm not hunting, I'm going to another spot I have." Unfortunately the CO can't prove otherwise and has to let them go, knowing damn well what the person is really doing. If you are legitaimately going from one spot to another, no matter how short a drive it is, any sensible sportsman won't be driving with a rifle between the seats and a loaded magazine on the dash board, at least not in Manitoba.
bearkilr
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Not angry at all, I just don't like it when people defend lazy hunting practices. They screw things up for the rest of us that like to hunt.
OK, here it goes:
You're driving down the road in the truck looking for deer, you see a deer in the field about 250 yds out, stop the truck, get out and shoot, killing the deer. Then you drag the deer off the field and put it into the back of the truck. You can be charged with:
1. Hunting from a vehicle
2. Shooting from a vehicle(if you stay in the seat or even lean over the hood/box)
3. Shooting from/across or along a road.
4. Possession of illegally taken wildlife
5. Trespassing (if it's private land)
6. Hunting on private land without permission(if you don't have permission, obviously)
They will confiscate the deer and gun plus probably lay all the above charges. Chances are they won't all stick, but you can be charged. In other words, it's illegal.
Driving and looking is not illegal. Driving, looking and subsequently shooting is. That was my point.
Why would you tell him your not hunting?Of course your hunting you have a gun and a hunting suit on.This sensible sportsman has a rifle or a rimfire or the 12 guage with him just about every time I leave the house,oh and even the evil shells to go with them,at least thats here in Saskatchewan.
wow you guys have it tough... rules for BC on vehicles are simply:
1. to shoot wildlife from a motor vehicle or a boat propelled by a motor (this does NOT include "leaning over the hood" or such. As long as you are standing on the ground you are good to shoot, got this from the local CO who was hunting with a friend and I one year).
2. to discharge, carry or have in possession a firearm containing live ammunition in its breech or in its magazine attached to the firearm, in or on a railway car, motor vehicle, sleigh, aircraft, bicycle or other conveyance.
granted around here most hunting requires, drive to logging road, walk road, drive to another logging road, repeat, etc. A few hunters get the chance to sit in a logging slash as usually that is the only open place for hunting. Moose hunting though is easier since sit on edge of swamp and wait lol.
bearkilr
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The thing I really liked about BC where I hunted is the road closures to motorized vehicles. You park the truck, walk down a logging road and sometimes within a few hundred yards see all kinds of animals; moose,elk,deer,etc.
That just doesn't happen in Manitoba. If there's an existing trail, you can drive down it with any vehicle, except in a select few areas that have "designated routes" and this is usually only for moose hunters. In many northern parts, you can drive wherever you want; across swamp,sloughs,meadows,etc., make your own trail. Of course, there are those in Manitoba that don't have to abide by most vehicle regulations, but I won't get into that.
The game is generally spooky in these areas, thanks to road "hunters".
That just doesn't happen in Manitoba. If there's an existing trail, you can drive down it with any vehicle, except in a select few areas that have "designated routes" and this is usually only for moose hunters. In many northern parts, you can drive wherever you want; across swamp,sloughs,meadows,etc., make your own trail. Of course, there are those in Manitoba that don't have to abide by most vehicle regulations, but I won't get into that.
The game is generally spooky in these areas, thanks to road "hunters".
From The 2008 BC Synopsis. Your CO may have been fine with using the hood as a rest. Another CO, with less common sense, may not have been fine with it.
True, but as long as your feet were touching the ground and you are standing, having the gun resting on part of the vehicle is fine and if you are charged with it you can fight it and win.
The "on" means you as a person NOT the firearm itself. (IE you can't be in the bed of a truck, one the roof of a truck or train, etc)
But yes it really all depends on how someone interprets the law, just like any law or any rule. but as of this date with the amount of CO's my family has come across, yet has one to say anything about it.
How about a few orange hats and stuffed heads sitting on a empty blind
LOL... The farmer up the road with me puts large pumpkins with blaze hats in the rock piles at the back of the field.
My wife says as we drive drive one time - "man that guy has been out all week in the same spot, every time I drive by he's there". She laughed when I pointed out that it was a pumpkin
I thought of another way to keep them from shooting the deer on the property from the road, it might be expensive and a little crazy but it would probably work. so here it goes:
Put up a 6 or 8 foot game fence along the edge of the property along the road and then back to the tree line along both sides(don't actually close it in, just what you can see). So that it looks like a game farm, with signs reading something along the lines of: tame deer: do not shoot, or deer with AIDS: don't harvest. lol, maybe add a few hay bails to the center of the field so it looks legit in case.
Put up a 6 or 8 foot game fence along the edge of the property along the road and then back to the tree line along both sides(don't actually close it in, just what you can see). So that it looks like a game farm, with signs reading something along the lines of: tame deer: do not shoot, or deer with AIDS: don't harvest. lol, maybe add a few hay bails to the center of the field so it looks legit in case.
bearkilr
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A friend of mine had a bonehead CO give him a ticket for "having a loaded gun in/on a vehicle". He had it resting outside the truck against the fender, with the butt on the ground, loaded. The judge thankfully threw it out.
Yeah that's what I'd call a bonehead CO! Good for the judge!
A little crazy
Reminds me of a story I heard of a bunch of antis who thought that putting orange vests and collars on deer would protect them from hunters. A local DJ who was a hunter got wind of it and offered a reward of pizza and beer or something for every hunter that would bring the orange vest in after he harvested a deer. All the vested deer got tagged and many celebrated with pizza and beer! Now this could have been an old wives tale spread among the anti anti crowd, but it seems just as crazy as above
A little crazy
Reminds me of a story I heard of a bunch of antis who thought that putting orange vests and collars on deer would protect them from hunters
I like the idea Ha, Ha... any anti's around here that would get off their lazy asses, and let go of a tree during their sing along, and collar a few for me?
Good idea though, to put some of them antis to some good use.
And if you did just that here, the sensible sportsman from Saskatchewan who came to Manitoba would be leaving the province without his firearms and a court date to come back and appear before a judge. Once again, in case you didn't fully read the posts, this occured in MANITOBA NOT SASKATCHEWAN.
Hunting is not just a Canadian tradition. It is a human tradition and traditionaly it is done in different ways in different parts of the world. It is an ancient tradition and it is also a modern tradition. Different parts of the world have different laws. When in Rome, do as the Romans do etc.
Well I am a road Hunter,was driving up the road with a hunting buddy,saw flock of mallards flying followed them for a couple miles,and saw them land in a creek.
Got permission to go get them,made a stalk got some ducks.
Drove over to another creek I frequent saw some mallards,parked truck stalked to creek got some ducks.
Went to the river saw some geese,got permission geese flew away as we come out the farm lane.
If that is road hunting than I am in.
I was always told to go were the game is.
If that takes driving around and looking for game to get some shooting no problem.
If you go and sit in the middle of no where hoping game will pass by with out doing your home work as to were they are you are missing out on some great action.
Got permission to go get them,made a stalk got some ducks.
Drove over to another creek I frequent saw some mallards,parked truck stalked to creek got some ducks.
Went to the river saw some geese,got permission geese flew away as we come out the farm lane.
If that is road hunting than I am in.
I was always told to go were the game is.
If that takes driving around and looking for game to get some shooting no problem.
If you go and sit in the middle of no where hoping game will pass by with out doing your home work as to were they are you are missing out on some great action.
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