December 6th first muzzloader deer!

Hows them XTP work as far as exit holes go?


They aren't fist sized if that is what you are looking for. The ones I do recover are full expansion. My last 300 gr XTP recovery was a mature cow moose shot broadside at 117 yards with 90gr of pyrodex. Found the XTP bullet under the hide (opposite side).




I have had cup / core separation on numerous times, but dead = dead regardless.
 
They aren't fist sized if that is what you are looking for. The ones I do recover are full expansion. My last 300 gr XTP recovery was a mature cow moose shot broadside at 117 yards with 90gr of pyrodex. Found the XTP bullet under the hide (opposite side).




I have had cup / core separation on numerous times, but dead = dead regardless.

No sir not lookin for fist sized holes, just a bleeder that's all. That bullet looks pretty fricken spiffy, I'd be usin 100 grains of pyrodex pellets...Unless 150 grain magnum charge shoots em better. Anyway is cup and core separation a " More often then not " deal or have you just slayed a pile of animals and seen a bunch of em?
 
You won't have cup/core separation with a Barnes TMZ or a cast 300 gr .452 in a sabot

Couldn't get your cast stuff to fly for me. Might try again.

No sir not lookin for fist sized holes, just a bleeder that's all. That bullet looks pretty fricken spiffy, I'd be usin 100 grains of pyrodex pellets...Unless 150 grain magnum charge shoots em better. Anyway is cup and core separation a " More often then not " deal or have you just slayed a pile of animals and seen a bunch of em?

Yup, whacked a few. I have had occasions of an exit hole, yet still find the cup in the critter. There are better bullets out there (Barnes TMZ, LeHigh, etc) but XTP's are bulk, cheap, deadly, and my rifle likes them.
 
Always had good luck with a .54 home cast ball and 100gr FFG.Complete pass throughs at 90 yards provided no shoulders hit.If so flattened out like a looney after breaking both.Tossed in back in the pot to make another bullet.............Harold
 
I think I'm gonna try me some Barnes bullets, if they don't work out I'm gonna try out the hornady's! Anybody else get a front stuffer deer last December now I guess cause the new year?
 
I think I'm gonna try me some Barnes bullets, if they don't work out I'm gonna try out the hornady's! Anybody else get a front stuffer deer last December now I guess cause the new year?

Good luck and have fun with'em. Get the ones with the "blue" sabot, they are much easier to load than the "yellow" sabots.
 
Got some on the way from Cabela's right now! What i don't understand about sabot bullets is how the bullet can fly straight with no rifling on it?
 
Got some on the way from Cabela's right now! What i don't understand about sabot bullets is how the bullet can fly straight with no rifling on it?

The rifling on the bullet is just the mechanical transference of the land and grooves embossing themselves upon the bullet as the barrel imparts a spin as the bullet travels down it. The sabot acts as a surrogate, taking all the contact from barrel but the bullet is locked inside the sabot spinning in turn. So when the spinning sabot / bullet combo exit the barrel, the sabot flares open, and the momentum of the heavier bullet formerly locked inside clears the sabot and continues spinning down its merry path in stable flight (free of any barrel markings).
 
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The rifling on the bullet is just the mechanical transference of the land and grooves embossing themselves upon the bullet as the barrel imparts a spin as the bullet travels down it. The sabot acts as a surrogate, taking all the contact from barrel but the bullet is locked inside the sabot spinning in turn. So when the spinning sabot / bullet combo exit the barrel, the sabot flares open, and the momentum of the heavier bullet formerly locked inside clears the sabot and continues spinning down its merry path in stable flight (free of any barrel markings).

I feel like I just had a physics lesson...But it just kinda confuses me how the sabot spining with the rifling and the bullet staying smooth has the ability to stabilize itself without any engraving on it? I don't know but thanks for that bit above.
 
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