December Purchases

My December purchase ... :D

I managed to find time to put together a photo montage of my newly arrived 1942 Inglis Mk1 Bren Gun, deactivated, but full #### and click and complete with original Bren Gun transit case marked 9974.

The receiver is marked with original '42 date, but also has 1.51.FTR. above the '42 date, which I believe means "Factory Thorough Repair" in January 1951?.

There were also 3 sets of paperwork with one showing Australian Military Forces form AAF F114 "Inspection of Equipment Document" dated May 1953 and bearing chest ID 9974. This document indicates that the Bren was "Repaired Range Tested and Prepared for Issue".

There is a second Australian Military Forces form AAF F114 "Inspection of Equipment Document" dated the following year, May 1954 and bearing chest ID 9223, which is different from chest 9974 that came with this Bren Gun. This document indicates that the Bren was "Repaired, ###xx Range Tested & Prepared for Issue". This document is hand written and I can't make out what the word with "###x" says, so if anyone else does, I'd appreciate knowing that.

The third document is an Australian Military Forces AAF F114 "Packing Note" D754049 dated Sept 30th, 1957, I think indicating the contents and it says "###x Bren Mk1 with Spare Barrel". Again, I can't make out what the "###x" says. Any guesses?

As required by Canadian firearms regulations, this piece has been deactivated at some in the past, but it's been done very well showing little visible defacing, plus one can #### and click fire the action. It has two small welds which can be seen in the photo montage and there's a pin driven through the barrel, just a little ways into the breech. The magazine has a small weld to prevent ammunition from being loaded, which I'm not sure why that was done, considering the other deactivation methods performed on the Bren itself.

Here's a link to the primary thread in Peter Laidler's Bren Gun forum

Discussion thread for 1942 Inglis Mk1 Bren Gun (Click Here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=41660



Here's a some sample pics from the photo montage including scans of the original documentation that came in the Bren transit chest.

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As I mentioned in old threads, when I was a young trooper back in the early 60's, I trained on first the Sten SMG and Bren Gun, before they switched us over to the Sterling SMG and FNC2. I loved the old Bren and most of the guys I trained with preferred it over the FNC2, hating to see it retired....

However, after 48 years or so, I've forgotten so much about this old girl.

I can't wait to buy Peter Laidler's forthcoming new book on the Bren Gun…… :)

Regards,
Doug
 
Picked this up and the Brandon Gunshow. No4 MK1* 1945 Longbranch. All matching with PH 5C.

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Picked up a nice Carcano M91/38 Moschetto per Cavalleria (am I a hipster for not just saying Cavalry Carbine?) made by Brescia in 1940. It's in somewhat rough shape but the price was right and I've been wanting one. Interestingly Brescia is the only company which put adjustable sights on 91/38 family weapons, and only on the Cavalry Carbines. I don't know why they did it, I've heard a theory that they were specially ordered by the Finance Ministry, but mine has Italian Army RE proofs which would seem to disprove that idea. Either way the bore is surprisingly decent on it!

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Also, though not really a milsurp, I picked up a very nice 1936 Colt Police Positive Special in .38 Special from a board member. Too much Boardwalk Empire and Public Enemies I guess! Still, a really cool gun and fits well into my little Prohibition and Gangster era collection. Very compact, particularly when you put it next to a New Service!

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I also picked up quite a few individual cartidges for my gun room cartridge display at the show - highlights including a 1912 dated US Army .38 Long Colt, a 1944 dated 7.92 x 33 Kurz and a pre-1928 .35 S&W Auto round.
 
1941 M1 Garand Lend Lease

I guess unless you find and original container with unmolested Garands in it, the next closest thing to an as issued early Garand are often the Lend Lease Rifles given to the British. They are not without their own issues...stocks are usually butchered and chequered, bayonet lugs and gas systems are often "streamlined"!

That being said, we have been fortunate in Canada to have had access to a number of them that are in very nice shape and retain all the early parts a US tech inspection would have removed and replaced! They really are a snap shot in time.

This one is a December 1941 rifle that is all original with the exception of the stock set, the buttplate, and the recent re-finish by Nick at Vulcan.
I was very happy to see the original flush nut sight system had not been tinkered with.

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I guess unless you find and original container with unmolested Garands in it, the next closest thing to an as issued early Garand are often the Lend Lease Rifles given to the British. They are not without their own issues...stocks are usually butchered and chequered, bayonet lugs and gas systems are often "streamlined"!

That being said, we have been fortunate in Canada to have had access to a number of them that are in very nice shape and retain all the early parts a US tech inspection would have removed and replaced! They really are a snap shot in time.

This one is a December 1941 rifle that is all original with the exception of the stock set, the buttplate, and the recent re-finish by Nick at Vulcan.
I was very happy to see the original flush nut sight system had not been tinkered with.

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Very nice rifle
 
Not a milsurp per se but a necessary acquisition...

After much searching I was able to obtain this signed copy from the author himself (thank you Anthony)...

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This book has been out of print for some time and is seldom seen for sale (and usually expensive). It is very helpful for determining what holster goes with which pistol and avoid fakes and misrepresentations.

It will be used along with Military Holsters of WW2 by Bender which I bought in October.
 
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1950 CNo4Mk1*
I found the younger sister of my issued 1950 CNo4Mk1* Ranger rifle :)
I'm very happy I won't have to turn this one in when the time comes...

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Richard, many those 1950s were released directly to International about 20 years ago. They were still in the grease and about the only bad thing about them, was they were roughly handled during disposal and gained some nicks and bruises. Minor stuff but still a PO.

They are incredible rifles and are some of the most accurate No4s ever made. I had a 1949 and a 1951 that were very accurate as well. Not as good as the 1950 but very close.

Nice score, I see it is import marked, Oh well just another stage in the histor of the rifle.
 
Yeah she has a couple of deep bumps and bruises and unfortunately CAI marked but for all intent and purposes this rifle is close to new condition. Over-all I am quite happy.
 
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1950 CNo4Mk1*
I found the younger sister of my issued 1950 CNo4Mk1* Ranger rifle :)
I'm very happy I won't have to turn this one in when the time comes...


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Very nice.
looks very much like a six groove bore.
If so, there should be a small 6 stamped on the right bayonet lug.
 
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Bought in October, but the import finally concluded and it's in my mitts at last ;) A November 1943 production Type 14 Nambu, all matching (including the mag) and in Excellent +++ condition. The bore still had traces of factory grease in it, the bolt is still strawed and the bolt face look unfired. Nicest Type 14 I've ever seen. The only down size is I only have the one original mag - oh well. beggars can't be choosers.

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Im 17 turn 18 in Janurary and so for christmas/birthday my parents bought me a m44 Hungarian Mosin Carbine(Hope I got the technicalities of the rifle correct) and the stock and the blueing on the metal look really good along with the bore all the parts on the rifle are matching
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Another entry for this month, late 7th series Torimatsu/Nagoya Type 99 Substitute Standard, matching with mum. The earliest reported Nagoya to be a full substitute standard (short handguard, pinned & welded front band, fixed rear sight, wood buttplate) is 7th series S/N 94732 according to Honeycutt. This rifle is only a few hundred later at 95406. One of the first substitute 99's to be made anywhere in Japan. It's likely a 1944 piece, Nagoya went on the build substitute standard rifles all the way into the 12th series. (they skipped the 9th series as it was allocated to Howa Jyuko, so about another 400,000 rifles).

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