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what I can't figure out is why a decent trigger can't be made stock on regular firearms-maybe not absolutely target quality-but good enough,rather requiring someone to spend the money to go and buy a custom trigger with polished surfaces.Can it cost that much more to do it in the factory?
When a manufacturor can supply a custom trigger for $80,or $100-they have to manufacture it just like the regular factory does-and then polish it,package it,and still allow enough profit for the retailer-a lot of which are already built into the price of the orginal firearm.
What am I missing here?
 
out of the box, most every rifle's trigger sucks

Tikka T3 are one of the exceptions. THeir triggers are pretty damn sweet the way they come. Too bad other manufacturers cant follow suit :confused: :rolleyes:
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ratherbefishin said:
What am I missing here?
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Buy a Voere Titan II or a Steyr-Mannlicher or a Sauer 200 and you will have a near perfect trigger on a stock rifle.:D
 
true-but those are high end rifles-I'm,talking about the cost of making a decent trigger on regular sporting rifles and 22's-how much would it really cost[$10-$20?]which I am sure nobody would object to-its a lot cheaper than paying another $80-$100 for an aftermarket trigger
 
ratherbefishin said:
true-but wouldn't companies making aftermarket triggers incur the same liability?
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Without slagging the general firearms community, my guess is that the product is being sold to a 'more advanced/educated consumer' and generally, the consumer installs the product. Therefore, the requirement is not there.

But I may be wrong.
 
I think that there's a substantial liability wall errected as soon as you "modify from manufacturer specs". Aftermarket triggers would certainly be considered modification.

As for the trigger manufacturer, they have 2 arguements:

the trigger was installed by the purchaser (or anyone not associated with the trigger maker)

this product is intended for a special/sophisticated market who acknowledges their own liability through the installation and use of this product.

Past that..... it's all about how good your mouthpiece is!!:eek:
 
I'm not argueing with the points made-but surely the firearms companies could use the same manufacturing process as the aftermarket trigger makers use in order to install a decent trigger on their firearms-and my point was,if an aftermarket trigger could be manufactured and sold for $80 to $100, then the actual cost of spending a little more time on it[polishing and fitting] is unlikely to be more than $10-which I would gladly pay extra to the original manufacturor to put the same quality in their own firearm.
 
Savage has acu-trigger on most of their rifles & I think they're great. Sure their are better but not as standard on a reasonably priced rifle:D On my Ruger MkII I had a gunsmith tune the trigger & it is good now. :D
 
''I had a gunsmith tune my trigger''exactly my point-how long does it take to have a gunsmith tune a trigger?-spending a little more the time in the manufacturing process for a decent trigger can't add that much to the cost-and most guys would be happy to pay for it rather than either pay a gunsmith to do it-or buy a replacement trigger that is basically the same one supplied as original equipment-but with a little more time spent polishing and tuning.
 
The manufacturing costs can jump dramatically for adjustable triggers... and even more for really good adjustable triggers.
Most North American manufacturers are more concerned about liability than trigger pull.
I agree that the Tikka's have the best trigger in affordable rifles very good out of the box and easily adjustable.
Sakos are excellent and very easy to fine tune, most don't need any work. Brownings A-bolts are good but can benefit from some gunsmithing.
Remington 700's and Win 70's can be tuned yourself and a good gunsmith can really get them working well... but I would rather have a good aftermarket trigger in either.
The Savage accu-trigger is just an abortion in my opinion.
 
"...What am I missing here?..." Frivolous US liability suits.
"...unlikely to be more than $10..." Hand fitting and polishing a trigger costs more than $10US. Think in terms of mass production.
 
''The manufacturing costs can jump dramatically for adjustable triggers''agreed-when you are doing a ''one off' but how hard is it to first do the engineering then set up the assembly line for making a decent trigger?We are not talking about some huge technical challenge here-they already have to manufacture the parts,its likely simply adding some polishing to the manufacturing process before installing the trigger.I just can't see why this is so dificult-or add prohibetively to the cost.Besides-since triggers seem to be one of the main complaints about rifles-any company that made a point of having a good off the shelf trigger would likely gain market share immediately
 
It's mostly because most gun owners and most gun manufacturer's just don;t care. This is evidenced by the annual sight in days we have at our range.
 
There is a good chance you would not be able to tell a 5 lbs trigger from a 2 lbs trigger in a hunting situation. I will agree with martinbns about the average hunter. They spend $18 for a box of ammo once a year:eek: , fire 4 shots at 100 yards and are happy to hit a 12" pie plate with 2 of them;) . They are good to go for hunt camp with the 16 remaining rounds.
Four shots is all they need for practice for the year, so what good would a crisp 2 lbs trigger be to these guys?
Now a good trigger for a target rifle can run $250-$300 so a good trigger for a hunting rifle at $100 is a steal. Or send it to a good gunsmith and get your factory trigger tuned for $25-$50.
 
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