Decided to take the plunge (375 H&H) Now which rifle should I buy? Updated page 92

Just remember with the plunger/ejector style bolts there is the possibility of an ejection failure in DG calibre rifles. Some have had no issue but not something I would want to bet my life on.
 
Why and how would your plunger ejector fail? The only time I have had ejectors stick was due to excessive abuse, on the range and working loads. I have never even thought about it in the field and my Rem 700s have never, ever, even once failed me out in the field. And I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds from 700 Rems. I have also used a 700 Rem for quite some time without an ejector, just hold the rifle sideways when you pull the fired case out and it will fall from the bolt face and out the ejection port, try that with your big claw extractor 98 style bolt.


Here's a couple pics of some of my 375s.







This is actually my 378, but same bullet size.........





And this was a 375 H&H that became a 375 Wby...........









And this is my user 375 H&H, it's been to Africa 3 times (I think) and killed a pile of game..........







 
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I'm more concerned about the 700 extractor than the ejector. If a plunger jams in you can clear cases with your fingers and get by. Chances are you only need/get one shot anyway. If sand gets behind the extractor you can be left with a chambered cartridge and a bolt that won't close. Best case scenario, you need a cleaning rod to clear the chamber. If you have that, you can thread the rim behind the extractor and use it as a single shot but if you don't you've got a walking stick for awhile.
 
Why and how would your plunger ejector fail? The only time I have had ejectors stick was due to excessive abuse, on the range and working loads. I have never even thought about it in the field and my Rem 700s have never, ever, even once failed me out in the field. And I have fired hundreds of thousands of rounds from 700 Rems. I have also used a 700 Rem for quite some time without an ejector, just hold the rifle sideways when you pull the fired case out and it will fall from the bolt face and out the ejection port, try that with your big claw extractor 98 style bolt.

Here's a couple pics of some of my 375s.







This is actually my 378, but same bullet size.........





And this was a 375 H&H that became a 375 Wby...........









And this is my user 375 H&H, it's been to Africa 3 times (I think) and killed a pile of game..........








Pretty rifles. Great pictures! Just going by what I've read in articles and experienced personally when using heavier calibres. Every situation is different. I'm not inferring it will happen to everyone but personally I would prefer a Mauser claw. Craig Boddington had it happen to him. I believe it was on his Remington in 416 Rem Mag.
 
I have bet my life on my 700 Rems many times as well as other push feed rifles with plunger ejectors and I'm still here and typing............I have seen more broken Mauser extractors than I have 700 Rems, by far................Many things can happen to a rifle on a hunt, but familiarity with your rifle and significant use and practice before hand will usually point out any shortcomings prior to a big hunt. I also check my rifle every morning and give it a couple dry firings before heading out just to make sure a spider or something hasn't set up camp in my trigger group over night and all is functioning as it should. One just never knows and must always be aware TIA...............
 
Why and how would your plunger ejector fail?

My cousin showed up at my place quite a few years ago with a Remington 700 BDL (.270, not that it matters) with the plunger ejector firmly stuck flush with the bolt face. I couldn't loosen it up. He was going to take it to a gunsmith, but next time I saw him he said it just popped back up of it's own accord. I have to assume that some bit of grit or brass got stuck in there and jammed it, but I'll never know for sure.

Yes, Mauser extractors can break. They can also be replaced in a matter of minutes if you have a spare. Likewise with the firing pin, and almost every other component on a Mauser 98. I wouldn't even want to attempt to change the ejector on a Remington.
 
I have bet my life on my 700 Rems many times as well as other push feed rifles with plunger ejectors and I'm still here and typing............I have seen more broken Mauser extractors than I have 700 Rems, by far................Many things can happen to a rifle on a hunt, but familiarity with your rifle and significant use and practice before hand will usually point out any shortcomings prior to a big hunt. I also check my rifle every morning and give it a couple dry firings before heading out just to make sure a spider or something hasn't set up camp in my trigger group over night and all is functioning as it should. One just never knows and must always be aware TIA...............

A spider would never setup camp in a Remington trigger. They're far too dangerous.
 
M 9.3.............I have had 700 ejectors stick from time to time, but it is almost always from a blown primer and I have found all one has to do it take a punch and give it a tap downwards into the bolt and they always pop right back up. Again it does happen but I have never been stuck with it or had it happen in the field. I have also only once had one that didn't pop right back out with a tap, but that's a whole 'nother story, had to drill all the brass out first.............


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Winchester CRF M70 Alaskan 375H&H. I have one in 338WM. Great rifle. I would have suggested CZ but their bluing seems to get a thin film of rust fairly quickly even with oiling. I have 10 CZ rifles and they all do this. My Win M70 and Featherweights have yet to do this. Don't forget when you go factory synthetic felt recoil usually increases
 
Hmmmmm.... I wonder why you get blown primers??? ;)


These things can happen from time to time............never in the field though, only at the range while testing loads or working with a new powder...............only proven loads ever go afield with me, and I have never blown a primer while hunting, not even in Africa at 55 C.
 
Underloads cause more pressure then overloads - maybe ??? ;) RJ

Uhhhh, yeah... underloads... Douglas... underloads...

Douglas' Loading motto; "Find the hottest load published, on the darkest, most sketchy corner of the Internet... and work UP from there.
 
Try to find a ZKK 602 as Geologist and Why Not mention; if those rifles were built today they would be at the top of the price range of big guns! So many features... how many folks know that the foresight on a zkk602 sits in a dovetail locked in by a spring loaded plunger and changing the iron sight elevation is a simple as sliding in a new foresight? There is a reason that these are favorites with working men who deal with big game...they are well designed, tough, functional and very accurate. When it absolutely has to work....this is the rifle to get.. and this big action has no difficulty with the big H&H.....they were designed for each other imo.
 
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