Deep cleaning a dirty bore

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I was cleaning a couple rifles after a range session yesterday and seeing as it was a wet windy day outside today, decided to go whole hog and do a clean sweep of nearly everything in the locker.

Some guns haven't been shot in a while so I thought it might be a good idea to at least give them a quick wipe to make sure no rust is developing.

I thought I'd try my new bottle of Break Free foaming bore cleaner in some of my older rifles and was surprised that hardly any of the patches came out dirty or blue even after soaking the foam in the barrels for 15 minutes.

Then I got to my Ross 303, my first rifle that was given to me by a family friend when I was 13 in 1967.

The bore looked pretty clean, but I thought I'd give it a try anyway.

I have cleaned that gun many times since then with various potions such as Hoppes #9, Sweet's 7.62, U.S. milspec bore cleaner, with copper brushes etc. but with this foaming stuff, I noticed the cleaning patches were coming out quite dark afterwards, so I brushed the bore with a brush a few times, then some of the U.S. milspec bore cleaner and got some really dark stains out of there before the patches started to come out clean.

It's amazing the amount of gack that can still be a gun barrel when you think its clean.
 
JB Bore paste is my favorite "Go To" solution to this cleaning problem. Whenever I encounter (friends find them for me) a super cloudy barrel, I bust open the JB Bore Paste and a pile of patches. Always works for me! ;)

Cheers,
Barney
 
I just did much the same. I bought a older m70...I could see the copper in the barrel and the first trip to the range resulted in 4" groups..great. I started cleaning it and got pretty tired of it and the patches where filthy. I decided to build one of these "electro" cleaners with the metal rod and running a current throught the gun and rod. Took me an hour to build and WOW!...the freakin crap that came out of that tube as just silly. 4 applications of about 45min each got rid of most of the copper...groups at the range went to 1.5"...I'm happy.
 
JB Bore paste is my favorite "Go To" solution to this cleaning problem. Whenever I encounter (friends find them for me) a super cloudy barrel, I bust open the JB Bore Paste and a pile of patches. Always works for me! ;)

Flitz is just a touch more aggressive than JB and also works very well. Neither will remove any measurable amount of steel, but will polish the bore very nicely.

If anything, an abrasive cleaner leaves the "pores" sealed up where a chemical or an "electro" cleaner will remove copper from the pores. The first few shots you take will simply plug up the pores again.
 
Flitz is just a touch more aggressive than JB and also works very well. Neither will remove any measurable amount of steel, but will polish the bore very nicely.

If anything, an abrasive cleaner leaves the "pores" sealed up where a chemical or an "electro" cleaner will remove copper from the pores. The first few shots you take will simply plug up the pores again.

It's true, but in some cases electronic is the way to go. Hydrosonic would be better, but those are rediculously expensive. I have now discovered surprisingly good rifling in two guns that I thought were junkers, since the leading was so extreme that it had not only filled the grooves, but covered the lands as well.




H Wally,
I followed your link.

You got me.
(snorting and spewing, lol)

Hahah - I hate it when people send me that link :p

This is CGN's own thread on the subject:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315187&highlight=electronic+bore+cleaner
 
Tell me more, Bwana!!

Not much to tell, there is plenty of info on the net but I...
1. get 30" steel rod from hobby store, about 1/8" thick
2. cover the end of rod with heat shrink for about 6"
3. wrap enough teflon tape around rod so that it fits tight in a fired case neck.
4. remove bolt and slid that whole contraption into the gun, install bolt and close. The rod is now sticking out the barrel, but is seated in the case in the chamber.
5. stand gun upright and put a cheap pastic funnel over the rod and tape in place at the muzzle...the funnel will stop the rod from touching the muzzle and shorting the system out.
6. Pour Windex with ammonia down the barrel until full at the muzzle.
7. Take old cd player or other power soure and cut off plug...soldier on 2 small aligator clips.
8. Plug in power source, put + lead on barel, - on rod...the windex will start bubbling almost immediatly, leave for about 30 minutes. Pour all the crap out, clean with a few patches, repeat if needed.
 
Brake Kleen and an ammonia soak will clean powder and copper fouling out of a rifle bore.
It will also clean the crude out of the faults so the will show up after.
Remember to rinse with hot water and oil...
 
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