Deer Baiting ??

You can feed turkeys and use bait to bring them into an area... just don't hunt over it. Seems like a ill-thought and unenforcable regulation to me ....
Another thing I have noticed is the proliference of electronic turkey calls being sold.... I wonder how many guys know these are illegal as well.
 
I have used bait stations with great success for years. When I was outfitting I sent alot of good deer not great boone&crocket deer but quality 140-170 class deer south with the use of ground blinds and bait stations. Most of the time, i would guess about 95 percent, the bucks did not come to eat, but look for does there. this thread will be de-baited for years with all kinds of opinions. It works to hold deer in your area, but you still have to get off the couch and put the time in at the blind. I have sat many-many days in a blind over bait and not harvested a thing.

There are all kinds of tricks for moving deer to your area which I could write about here all day. One example I like is hunt a fence line and pull out some staples on the top two wires and then tie the wires together with twine. Deer will always use this as a crossing. Not much different than baiting!! Is this right?? who knows but it works.
 
It's when hunters start trying to use the bait to hold or grow deer that the problem starts. There are products down South that move from being an alternative or more atractive food sorce into the realm of supplements.

Also there's always the concern that taking a cervid that feeds over large areas each day and concentrating them in one small baiting area for days on end creates a perfect environment for the exchange of disease.
 
It's when hunters start trying to use the bait to hold or grow deer that the problem starts. There are products down South that move from being an alternative or more atractive food sorce into the realm of supplements.

Also there's always the concern that taking a cervid that feeds over large areas each day and concentrating them in one small baiting area for days on end creates a perfect environment for the exchange of disease
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Although I like the Lazy hunter theory, I like part of your comments a bit. Reading it again maybe not, I think your relating more to deer farms, than wild deer.
Deer do yard up in winter , in large numbers, much larger than at a bait site, and been doing it for a long time out here on the East Coast.
Frank
 
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Baiting concentrates animals. With CWD starting to spread throught out Saskatchewan and Alberta maybe we should cool the jets on baiting them. I know you will still get densities of deer coming to crop and alfalfa fields but that is not the same as a rubber tub of salt or a little pile of grain. IMHO
 
Levi Garrett said:
Although I like the Lazy hunter theory, I like part of your comments a bit. Reading it again maybe not, I think your relating more to deer farms, than wild deer.
Deer do yard up in winter , in large numbers, much larger than at a bait site, and been doing it for a long time out here on the East Coast.
Frank
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No I'm talking about what some Hunters wold consider the natural extention of baiting. http://www.deer-crack.com/


Deer concentration in winter yards is a natural behavior. The risk of disease transmission is lower in winter yards than at artificial feeding sites because feeding is dispersed, and the food is consumed and not replaced. At artificial feeding sites deer are in closer contact, and the food is replaced at the same location repeatedly, increasing the likelihood of direct contact between animals and more concentrated contamination of the ground with feces and urine.
 
:eek: I have never seen any proof of what you say other than , the problems created by deer farmers, and escape of these animals , which later contact wild deer. My knowledge is limited in this area , although I have been following any and all reports , with concern for the population of wild deer. If you have any documented cases of this sort of thing , please let us know, after all , its in everyones best interest to get educated in this area.
Frank
 
Levi Garrett said:
:eek: I have never seen any proof of what you say other than , the problems created by deer farmers, and escape of these animals , which later contact wild deer Frank
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The farmed deer you speak of are thought to develope cwd through close contact ( exchange of feces/urine)and/or contaminated feed. The obvious concern with Baiting is that it can create a simular environment.

http://www.cwd-info.org/pdf/wildlife_baiting.pdf
 
Good article, but concerns still remain a farm deal, where critters are not handled proper, and areas are not cleaned in many cases. As for deer in the wild that come and go as they please, often kick the crap out of each other to maintain that distance , or even visit bait sites at differant times to avoid trouble, the chance of this would be un likely.
Also bait sites are often moved , as there are no fences to worry about. Like the old ####ters back in the day,LOL:D
Frank
 
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Most af the negative baiting research is done by organizations who are not hunter friendly. They could be considered anti hunting if you look at their motives and mandates. The one link and accompanying research is from a Veterinary College... and they are not hunter friendly.
CWD is very unclear scientifically and the anti hunting crowd is using misinformation and fear tactics against us...let there be no doubt!
 
Deer baiting

Three years ago, when I started bow hunting and using a tree stand, I made a similar inquiry of Fish & Wildlife in B.C. On the side of one of the farms I bow hunt on, there are a couple of apple trees, about 150 M from one of my stand locations. As 'moving' some of these apples to a better location;) constitutes baiting, I thought I'd best find out first. After having searched through the synopsis for that year and as I was unable to find any mention of baiting Deer, I called and asked. The individual I talked to was unable to find any pertinent info but a couple of days later, after a fairly extensive search, called back. He said he could find no stipulation that baiting Deer, or Wolves, was illegal. The only baiting that was stated as illegal was for Bear & Migratory Birds. Just to be sure, he supplied me with his contact info in the department.:)
 
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