Deer huntin .300wsm or 7mm RM

I have used 7mmRem Mag for 25 years...Moose, caribou...whitetails...bear...Different bullets mind you...but very fast, accurate, moderate recoil. I feel the long cartridges feed smoother than the chubby ones.I have shot lots of Short Mags , I have a 440 yard range on my farm.Remember, I have never owned one.Respectfully Jim
 
Six to one, half dozen to the other. Both excellent cartridges, more a personal choice than any other factor. Those are both heavy hitting cartridges for deer size game, but I'd rather carry something that's a bit oversized than something too light.
 
Thanks fellas, it was a bit of a loose question I know.

I am into my 300wsm but feel I might be more accurate with a 7mm rem mag an the same sized projectiles but not sure if I can be bothered setting up a 7rm just to see... plus id need a bit of barrel lopped off the 7.

cheers

wl
 
WhelanLad said:
Thanks fellas, it was a bit of a loose question I know.

I am into my 300wsm but feel I might be more accurate with a 7mm rem mag an the same sized projectiles but not sure if I can be bothered setting up a 7rm just to see... plus id need a bit of barrel lopped off the 7.

cheers

wl
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Curious why you think you would shoot a 7 Rem better than a 300 WSM?
 
I've owned and hunted with both the 7mm RM and .300 WM (plus .300 Wby). With the 7mm RM I have shot from Sitka Blacktails to Moose, including elk, whitetail, mule deer, black bear and actually even a racoon! With the .300 the smallest is Blacktail - which was big as they go at around 200lbs and up from there.

I've stuck with the 7mm RM, but there is nothing wrong with the .300's.

But why do you insist on cup and core bullets? There isn't really much wrong with Partitions.
 
7RM for me...no other reason than I have one. Can't see why both wouldn't do an equal job through an equal array of practical ranges.
 
The 7 will take anything in North America, and most of anything in Africa. Loud as hell, and has a sharp kick.
The WSM has good ballistics and will serve you well - especially for deer. It is a short action, so if you have a bolt gun, you should be able cycle it faster than a large action.
 
When I read the title I thought, What is wrong with the .308? Dad took home lots of deer with that. But then I read on and see you are also hunting larger game.
Curious, I am not trying to hy-jack the thread. With the right bullets and shot placement. Could a hunter confidently hunt Moose or Elk With a .308?
Thanks
 
Sako - unquestionably yes. The 308, and 30-06 are effective, but lack some of the 'fudge factor' of the larger magnums.
Shot distance, and the possibility of shooting through brush also factor in.
Possible - yes! Ideal? Probably not.
 
Sakoman .308 said:
When I read the title I thought, What is wrong with the .308? Dad took home lots of deer with that. But then I read on and see you are also hunting larger game.
Curious, I am not trying to hy-jack the thread. With the right bullets and shot placement. Could a hunter confidently hunt Moose or Elk With a .308?
Thanks
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...of course you could.....thousands have in fact.
 
WL;

Neither cartridge is actually well suited to C+C bullets, if you are stuck hard on C+C bullets then go to the heaviest in either caliber, in order to get enough SD to get penetration. Now you have changed the playing field and the big 7 will outshine the WSM when using heavy for cal bullets. I would recommend 175 gn in the big 7 and at least 200 in the WSM, the recoil will be more and the big 7 will now give significantly more velocity because of it's ability to hold more slower powder and the bullet encroaches less into the powder capacity of the case. The WSMs were designed with our much better constructed lighter bullets in mind, they will kill and give trajectories very similar to their larger belted cousins, but do it with lighter homogenous or super tough bonded premium bullets. For C+C bullet use it's hard to replace bullet weight and powder capacity. Hence given your very specific parameters, I'd have to advise you to use the big 7 and 175 gn C+C bullet about 2900 fps and you shouldn't get any nasty surpizes.
If you could see your way clear to use Nos Parts then load up 160s in the 7 and 165s in the WSM and you won't be able to tell them apart in any hunting scenario.
 
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Now we are talking!
thank you to the contributers for their info!

I'l try clear things out a bit.

A while back I bought a 300WSM with the idea of shooting longer ranges (out to 400m) I first used 180gr Super X projectiles and used a Stock Abolt rifle with a fairly hard recoil pad.. Its fair to say I was uncomfortable shooting that.
Shortly after I grabbed some 150gr Corelokt factorys and also a KikEez recoil pad.... Life behind the WSM became a lot more accurate and comfortable layin prone punchin paper.

I class the deer I hunt (sambar) as Elk to give you guys better idea.. So im using these 150gr CL an shooting Sambar from distances of 30m to 250m so far, None of these projectiles have exited an obviously open up fairly quick.

Comparing my accuracy with the 300wsm to the accuracy I shoot with the Rem700 .270win, im a lot more accurate an feel a lot better off the trigger with the 270, although the 270 is my Fallow rifle and holds sentimental value so it can stay in the safe.

Which brings me around to thinking that Maybe... could sell the 300WSM an put the money toward an Abolt 7RM, which I would use similar weight projectiles 150gr or so and being a LA I tend to think the recoil is not as "explosive" as the Short Fat case full of powder going off..

my only gripe is the length of barrel, an would proberly need to get a few inch cut off depending what the Abolts come out with in 7 over here..


Its something I need to shoot both rifles side by side before I toss out a great 300WSM, as some people say the recoil will be very similar an no diference in performance either.

I can also start reloading for the WSM an maybe go into the 165gr rainge to get a bit more power behind the projectiles to try get them to exit... premiums over here just cost too much for me to blast most of the box on Targets as I like to test at ranges etc, Something like Hornady Interlock is tickling my fancy ATM.


Moneys obviously an issue for me, otherwise id just buy a 7rm an see for myself, but I know the guys here know a fair bit about there rifles an it sure helps discussiong my thoughts sometimes!

Cheers
WL
 
c-fbmi said:
WL;

Neither cartridge is actually well suited to C+C bullets, if you are stuck hard on C+C bullets then go to the heaviest in either caliber, in order to get enough SD to get penetration. Now you have changed the playing field and the big 7 will outshine the WSM when using heavy for cal bullets. I would recommend 175 gn in the big 7 and at least 200 in the WSM, the recoil will be more and the big 7 will now give significantly more velocity because of it's ability to hold more slower powder and the bullet encroaches less into the powder capacity of the case. The WSMs were designed with our much better constructed lighter bullets in mind, they will kill and give trajectories very similar to their larger belted cousins, but do it with lighter homogenous or super tough bonded premium bullets. For C+C bullet use it's hard to replace bullet weight and powder capacity. Hence given your very specific parameters, I'd have to advise you to use the big 7 and 175 gn C+C bullet about 2900 fps and you shouldn't get any nasty surpizes.
If you could see your way clear to use Nos Parts then load up 160s in the 7 and 165s in the WSM and you won't be able to tell them apart in any hunting scenario.
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Thank you very much!
 
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