Deer huntin .300wsm or 7mm RM

It means the core(lead) is not bonded to the cup(jacket). Basically a non bonded jacketed bullet. It's a category that includes a huge number of bullets from pretty well all manufacturers, just as bonded is another category as is mono metal..
In other words a spitzer bullet, and the "cup and core" terminology is jargon; or is it marked on todays bullets that I don't purchase?
 
In other words a spitzer bullet, and the "cup and core" terminology is jargon; or is it marked on todays bullets that I don't purchase?

Nope, spitzer actually refers to the shape of a bullet....cup and core refers to the construction and can be found in all shapes. Not really jargon, just a common term used to describe a particular type of bullet construction that many bullet shapes fall under. Just think of it as a non-bonded jacketed bullet. Since I have no idea what bullets you buy I can't say if they are cup and core or not. If you buy bonded or mono metals then you don't buy cup and core.....
 
Nope, spitzer actually refers to the shape of a bullet....cup and core refers to the construction and can be found in all shapes. Not really jargon, just a common term used to describe a particular type of bullet construction that many bullet shapes fall under. Just think of it as a non-bonded jacketed bullet. Since I have no idea what bullets you buy I can't say if they are cup and core or not. If you buy bonded or mono metals then you don't buy cup and core.....
I use nothing but Nosler.....accubond, ballstic tip and partition.
 
Sheeps got it right, cup and core refers to the original way bullet makers made bullets to control expansion and leadfouling of barrels. They took a thin piece of copper, formed it into a cup and then put the lead core in it and swaged them into the final shape they wanted........huge improvement over lead bullets of the day. This is where the terminology of cup and core came from, it literally descibes the manufacturing process by which they are made. It was also the only way velocities could be increased to over 2000 fps, without lead fouling the barrels to the point of becoming unuseable, with the advent of smokeless powders. All bullets were made this way without significant improvement up until the 50s when John Nosler came up with the Partition, still cup and core by definition but actually 2 cores separated by a jacket material partition roughly 1/2 way up the bullet...........This was the first vast improvement to commercial bullet construction since the first jacket was swaged over a lead core. Interestingly this idea was spawned from paper patched bullets of the late black powder era.
 
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That's quite comparable to what we have to pay for them here in Canada... $63.90 + tax & shipping. I thought they would have been much cheaper for you.
Yeah I know right.... its not that cool... Same goes for our ADI powder, which is bottled as Hodgsons over that way... its proberly cheaper for you guys to buy than it is me, an its made 2 hours down the road...

Actual made ammo is pretty ludicris too.... but we wont go there.
Nope, spitzer actually refers to the shape of a bullet....cup and core refers to the construction and can be found in all shapes. Not really jargon, just a common term used to describe a particular type of bullet construction that many bullet shapes fall under. Just think of it as a non-bonded jacketed bullet. Since I have no idea what bullets you buy I can't say if they are cup and core or not. If you buy bonded or mono metals then you don't buy cup and core.....

Yeah sheeps on the money, an in bold is what I generally speak about when talking CC's ;)

cheers
WL
 
I actually just checked the box... That's $69.00 for 50 projectiles.... .358 RN Woodleigh.

cheers mate

wl

Its not so much that Woodleighs are cheap there, but that the premium American stuff is off the chart. I got to see weird stuff like .30 cal TSXs with $80 price tags and Federal blue box 30-06 for $45 a box sitting beside Norma that cost less. Woodleigh prices are similar to what we pay here, but seemed like a bargain in OZ.

In an unrelated note I sent the deposits for a couple NT hunts yesterday. Four years in a row now, Aussies know how to have fun.
 
Its not so much that Woodleighs are cheap there, but that the premium American stuff is off the chart. I got to see weird stuff like .30 cal TSXs with $80 price tags and Federal blue box 30-06 for $45 a box sitting beside Norma that cost less. Woodleigh prices are similar to what we pay here, but seemed like a bargain...

Meh... You just listed the prices at the LGS here in Fort Mac, except for the Norma part.
 
I've owned and shot both. I prefer the 300 wsm, which I found it was a touch more accurate with a lot of loads over my 7mmRM. I could have developed loads for the 7 but it did the job well enough with factory loads. It just wasn't as accurate as the 300 wsm.
 
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