Deer killed by coyotes ***WARNING GRAPHIC PIC****

204saskman said:
And im not saying that it isnt natural, Its called the suvival of the fittest for a reason. But when a pack of coyotes start to take down deer, whats to say that they will not start to take down calves also. And when a farmer looses any calves, that starts to hurt his pocket more and more. Im not disagreeing with you on the its natural thing, I realize they have to eat. But like i said, they do it once,they will do it again.

O and btw, this morning on my way to work, i was driving down the hiway and in 1/2 section of land we seen 6 coyotes approching a herd of deer. Cant tell me that they arent goona cause damage to farmers cattle if they can take down a deer.
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So whay you're saying is you shoot coyote's because they're varmints and attack cattle?;)

They are not "starting" to take down deer, they do it all the time. More frequently at the end of the winter than at other times of the year. Same with coyotes eating pets. The harder it is to find dinner, the bolder they get.
 
cancer said:
I've seen a couple deer down here in S. Ont with mangled up rear legs also. You only ever see them like that in hunting season. If it were coyotes, they'd finish the job off.
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Could be auto/deer accident. With the number of hunters in the bush the deer move more and with less caution.....
 
I hit a deer with my pickup broke all 4 legs kind of ran over it with my right front tire as I came around a tight curve on a logging road @ about 80klm it started to run off the road then changed it's mind and ran back out in front of me.

I can see how a vehicle caused the injuries that are being described.

So lets not demonize hunters without having first hand evidence...
 
Camp Cook said:
I hit a deer with my pickup broke all 4 legs kind of ran over it with my right front tire as I came around a tight curve on a logging road @ about 80klm it started to run off the road then changed it's mind and ran back out in front of me.

I can see how a vehicle caused the injuries that are being described.

So lets not demonize hunters without having first hand evidence...
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Actually my Uncle did it with a 12 ga slug, leg was clean off by the time the deer was into the truck. I saw another guy completely shatter the front leg of a buck with a 30-30, it was just flapping in the wind. And lastly a guy broke two legs on a running fawn buck with buckshot. All I'm saying is that when we hunt it can be pretty ugly too.
 
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Regardless how it looks, taking a deer by rifle, shotgun or bow, is a lot more humane than being eaten alive by coyotes or other predators.
 
2fat2fly said:
This would be a good example to send to the lieberal left papers. This is how animals die in the wild. In that light, how is hunting cruel?
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Agreed. Dying of starvation or being eaten alive is not a pleasant fate - animals that are taken with a clean shot die better than those in the wild, and many (most?) of those that die in slaughter houses.

Sadly, a lot of anti-hunting types are unaware of their hypocrisy, as the chomp down on a burger or chicken fingers ...... without a thought for the horrid life that many of these animals live.
 
I'm lucky in the sense that my girlfriend thinks it's much better to eat hunted food that lived a happy life than to eat feedlot animals that had a ####ty one.

I know she's right on a lot of levels, I'm just happy.

Ryan
 
Ol' Smokey said:
Agreed. Dying of starvation or being eaten alive is not a pleasant fate - animals that are taken with a clean shot die better than those in the wild, and many (most?) of those that die in slaughter houses.

Sadly, a lot of anti-hunting types are unaware of their hypocrisy, as the chomp down on a burger or chicken fingers ...... without a thought for the horrid life that many of these animals live.
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Deer dying a natural death can't be compared to hunting, whether it's starvation or being taken by a predator. You'll lose that argument with an anti every time. Nature doesn't intend to be cruel, or nice for that matter.

Hunting and slaughterhouses, now that's a different story altogether.
 
It's the end of the winter, this is when the deer have drained all the last of their fat reserves and are at the most vulnerable time of the year. They're exausted from scratching around for morsels all winter, yotes can take them down easy.

A buck loses alot more fat than does do during the rut and so they don't go into the winter with the same amount of resources as the does and fawns. A hard winter will bring the deer down by itself without the coyotes help. Survival of the fittest, thats all it is.

I feed the deer all winter long but only because the kids love to see them out the back door but when March hits you can see it in their faces if it's been a hard winter or not and I usually double up on what I put out for them during this month. While the snow is melting and they can get a grasses and such around tree edges they still need alot more to get through this last month.
 
DVXDUDE: Just a stab in the dark here but is/was there a lot of snow cover in that area this winter? Reason I'm asking is that if the coyotes were having trouble finding rodents in the snow they will go after old/sick/weak deer.
 
MadDog said:
It's the end of the winter, this is when the deer have drained all the last of their fat reserves and are at the most vulnerable time of the year. They're exausted from scratching around for morsels all winter, yotes can take them down easy.

A buck loses alot more fat than does do during the rut and so they don't go into the winter with the same amount of resources as the does and fawns. A hard winter will bring the deer down by itself without the coyotes help. Survival of the fittest, thats all it is.

I feed the deer all winter long but only because the kids love to see them out the back door but when March hits you can see it in their faces if it's been a hard winter or not and I usually double up on what I put out for them during this month. While the snow is melting and they can get a grasses and such around tree edges they still need alot more to get through this last month.
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Yup...this is the perfect time of year to get out in the bush and cut some firewood. Look for the soft maples in the swampy areas. It's OK firewood, and the deer love the new buds on the limbs. :)

Might just mean the difference in the survival of the big buck you were after last year. ;)
 
armorman said:
DVXDUDE: Just a stab in the dark here but is/was there a lot of snow cover in that area this winter? Reason I'm asking is that if the coyotes were having trouble finding rodents in the snow they will go after old/sick/weak deer.
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Sorry guy but don't fall prey to the mistruth's about coyotes and wolves only preying on the sick, weak and old. I go with my Grandfather's sentiments( a man whose career and passions were spent in the bush)To quote him" I've never seen a wolf running around with a stethascope and thermometer".
 
Thats true, I've been in my stand in bow season and witnessed a pair of coyotes running a pair of healthy does a couple years back. One was running with it's head up looking for movement and the other had it's nose to the ground trailing the scent. To bad I had a bow and not a rifle, could have taken them both.

Yotes are open all year long still here on the island, same with Manitoulin Island I believe. I think just the mainland Ontario got hit with that tag crap on yotes.
 
the spank said:
Sorry guy but don't fall prey to the mistruth's about coyotes and wolves only preying on the sick, weak and old. I go with my Grandfather's sentiments( a man whose career and passions were spent in the bush)To quote him" I've never seen a wolf running around with a stethascope and thermometer".
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Oh.....I didn't read the part where I said they "only" prey on the weak. Don't get me wrong...I'm no coyote loving hippy smoking pot in my VW van. They will however by instinct attack the weak one because normally the weakest are also the slowest. I've spent enough time chasing coyotes in and around our farm and I have yet to see a coyote or a group of them successfully take down a healthy deer. That's not saying that they can't or haven't as MadDog has witnessed it for himself. And, just to set the record straight, I like killing them just as much as Camp Cook does!!!:D
 
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the spank said:
" I've never seen a wolf running around with a stethoscope and thermometer".
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There's a beauty!

So it sounds like those who want to reduce the cruelty of mother nature better go out and cleanly kill the weakest deer and allow the coyotes to have a good feed on the carcasses. Then they'll leave the livestock and pets alone...

Unless they're like wolves and often kill for the pure "pleasure" of it?;)
 
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