Deer ppc carbine

[Canuck44]

Handofzeus maybe the demand is just not there. My 9mms are for playing the games. I suppose I could shoot rabbits with them but I have better platforms for that. I suppose I could load them up for deer but again I have better options.

Take Care
Bob

 

[bush1]

Handofzeus maybe the demand is just not there. My 9mms are for playing the games. I suppose I could shoot rabbits with them but I have better platforms for that. I suppose I could load them up for deer but again I have better options.
Take Care
Bob

Ya, I’ll agree with you that 9mm are better suited to plinking than hunting that’s why I was thinking of a JR in a more powerful caliber. I have a 9mm BRS99 and it’s a great plinking rifle so have that end covered. I have the suitable calibers for deer hunting and have been very successful over the year mainly due to the amount of game animals in my hunting area but recently wondered about changing up to a different type of firearm. Just for a change to do something different, no other particular reason.

I have a Snider .577 and have located the required components to use it deer hunting this fall. The Ruger 44 semi is attracting me as well but they don’t come up very often on the used market. I think you’re right about the lack of demand for a new built 44 deer rifle though. A few years back I had the opportunity to do a game farm pistol hog hunt and was successful with a 44 revolver. Fun times for sure but unfortunately not allowed up here.

Guess I’ll just have to settle on taking the Snider out this fall to do something different and give it a go.

 

[MkivSupra]

Let me get this straight, a PPC is like a pcc except it doesn't ever work but fools think it does right? Says it'll deliver but has a 100% ftf rate. Usually comes in purple and gives elections to the liberals then blames everyone else.

 

[Canuck44]

Mikiv the Conservatives under Harper promised to rid us of the Long Gun Registry and they did. I would hope you are not so naive to think Canada will not have some form of legislation over firearms. Not going to happen not in this world or the next. Personally I would hope for a bit of common sense be applied where now there seems to be none.

Take Care
Bob

 

[alpining]

... everyone who's used a semi-auto ruger .44 carbine says it's the ultimate light hunting rifle so.....why is there no pcc or semi-auto carbine in .357 or .44 mag? ....

Many of us wish...

That Ruger Model 44 and Deerfield semi you're talking about are both gas operated, which is quite a bit more costly to manufacture than the straight blowback action of the other options we're talking about here. It gets harder and harder to make a usable straight blowback action as the power of the cartridge goes up, and maybe it's simply not viable for something like 44Mag.

If Ruger was making a gas-operated 44Mag carbine option today, I would expect it to be MUCH more expensive than the PC Carbine. And frankly, it would be a small, niche market to appeal to in comparison with the plinker-oriented PCC.

They'd also require a proprietary magazine, unless they used Desert Eagle mags - Expensive in either case.

 

[alpining]

But those Ruger 44Mag carbines weren't perfect, either. Frankly, I'd MUCH rather have an AR in a medium powered hunting cartridge. But gun laws do strange things to demand...

 

[Bubba Yugga]

I know it's not a PCC (yeah, I know the BFR is out there), but the .45-70 Gummint with the Leverevolution 325's is pretty awesome on deer.
Once you've got some Hornady spent brass, reloading is pretty affordable.
Just remember to put a washer under that short case to get the crimp in the right place.
Lot of good talk on u-toob about them new Ruger built 1895 SBL's, although I lucked out with my Remlin.
Any high time lever gunner knows that only Lee Enfields can come close to them in challenging semi auto rates.

 

[quinnbrian]

Yes there are Better platforms for deer , rabbits..etc..etc, when I bought my JR originally was to replace a 22.... something reloadable...but I would grab it over most small cal rifles. I have 22’s 22 mag’s and a couple custom 22hornet and Khornet’s this rifle, would replace all but the hornets.
In the Bush they work great, out to 100 yards yes , they’ll work but more of a Bush rifle to me. As far as deer hunting goes... there have been a lot of deer taken with a 22rf .... a lot! Legal (22rf) no but if your trying to put food on the table.... is it going to really matter!

 

[Dukester]

Many of us wish...

That Ruger Model 44 and Deerfield semi you're talking about are both gas operated, which is quite a bit more costly to manufacture than the straight blowback action of the other options we're talking about here. It gets harder and harder to make a usable straight blowback action as the power of the cartridge goes up, and maybe it's simply not viable for something like 44Mag.

If Ruger was making a gas-operated 44Mag carbine option today, I would expect it to be MUCH more expensive than the PC Carbine. And frankly, it would be a small, niche market to appeal to in comparison with the plinker-oriented PCC.

They'd also require a proprietary magazine, unless they used Desert Eagle mags - Expensive in either case.

But those Ruger 44Mag carbines weren't perfect, either. Frankly, I'd MUCH rather have an AR in a medium powered hunting cartridge. But gun laws do strange things to demand...

I've had a chance at several Ruger .44's and as attractive as they were to me the fact that parts may be a problem and my preference in a handgun is 357 I never made the jump and don't regret it. If I was already reloading for a .44 I might have jumped on one.

So if I were in your boots OP I would get a well priced short barrelled bolt and load up some smoking .357 pills.

 

[Steyn]

With the hundreds of options we have now, there is zero reason to take down a deer with a 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP etc. Zero. The risk of just wounding an animal (a sin against nature, aside from any legalities) is way just too bleeping high.

I'd say go at least .44 Magnum. Or stay home, and leave them animals be.

And for all the very predictable answers: Yes, I know your grandpa took down many a deer with his .22LR. Not a consideration nowadays, though. Pops lived in the great depression, and did not have choices. We do, and we owe to the animals we kill a quick and sure death.

 

[B]

With the hundreds of options we have now, there is zero reason to take down a deer with a 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP etc. Zero. The risk of just wounding an animal (a sin against nature, aside from any legalities) is way just too bleeping high.

I'd say go at least .44 Magnum. Or stay home, and leave them animals be.

And for all the very predictable answers: Yes, I know your grandpa took down many a deer with his .22LR. Not a consideration nowadays, though. Pops lived in the great depression, and did not have choices. We do, and we owe to the animals we kill a quick and sure death.

I can think of lots of reasons actually. Your opinion isn't stupid but it's far from well thought out and clearly not based on actual experience like many posts in this thread. A 9mm JHP takes deer as humanely as anything else suitable. I'm guessing you shoot them with a .300 Win Mag at a minimum..?

 

[Camp Cook]

I have friends that own a small certified organic grass fed cattle ranch when they have an issue with one of their cows they call me to dispatch it.

Depending on the condition of the animal I either cut it up for food for my dogs or I get it butchered up for us.

I received the call this afternoon that they had a 500lbs yearling calf get stuck in one of the large feed bins that they drop the big hay bails in after then finally got it out it can no longer stand up let alone walk.

I am heading up in the morning to take care of it.

Going to take my 14" barreled T/C Contender carbine in 45 Colt loaded with 355gr WFNGC's.

I usually shoot them 1" high - between the eyes from about 40 - 50 yards away to keep them as calm as possible.

I've never used the 45 Colt for this curious as to how it will do the job = thinking it will drop instantly.

 

[Dukester]

I have friends that own a small certified organic grass fed cattle ranch when they have an issue with one of their cows they call me to dispatch it.

Depending on the condition of the animal I either cut it up for food for my dogs or I get it butchered up for us.

I received the call this afternoon that they had a 500lbs yearling calf get stuck in one of the large feed bins that they drop the big hay bails in after then finally got it out it can no longer stand up let alone walk.

I am heading up in the morning to take care of it.

Going to take my 14" barreled T/C Contender carbine in 45 Colt loaded with 355gr WFNGC's.

I usually shoot them 1" high - between the eyes from about 40 - 50 yards away to keep them as calm as possible.

I've never used the 45 Colt for this curious as to how it will do the job = thinking it will drop instantly.

Certified organic grass fed and your dogs will eat it??? I call BS

 

[Camp Cook]

Certified organic grass fed and your dogs will eat it??? I call BS

Really why is it that the clueless are everywhere now a days?

Did you not read my second sentence?

If there is a chance at all that the meat is not perfect I will feed it to my dogs if it is good we eat it.

Last cow I butchered up died giving birth I did not get there in time to save the meat for us so our dogs had stews made with it.

The one before that had a broken leg so I shot it from 40 yards because it would charge if anyone got closer it was in excellent shape so I had it butchered for us.

I have no idea how traumatized this yearling is from what I understand it jumped into the feeder catching its back leg it hung upside down with its head just off the ground with its leg caught on the rung on the side of the feeder for hours before they found it.

I have three dogs they average 150 lbs each

Picture is the cow that had the broken leg

 

[Dukester]

Really why is it that the clueless are everywhere now a days?

Did you not read my second sentence?

If there is a chance at all that the meat is not perfect I will feed it to my dogs if it is good we eat it.

Last cow I butchered up died giving birth I did not get there in time to save the meat for us so our dogs had stews made with it.

The one before that had a broken leg so I shot it from 40 yards because it would charge if anyone got closer it was in excellent shape so I had it butchered for us.

I have no idea how traumatized this yearling is from what I understand it jumped into the feeder catching its back leg it hung upside down with its head just off the ground with its leg caught on the rung on the side of the feeder for hours before they found it.

I have three dogs they average 150 lbs each

Picture is the cow that had the broken leg

Second sentence?? I thought your entire post was an attempt at humour.

So right now there is a compromised animal in pain and the useless fugs that are supposed to be responsible for it have you coming to take care of it? And it isn't the first time they had you solve their problems? And you yap calibres and ranges for tomorrows project. In a deer ppc thread.

I ran beef for 18 years. Maybe your province has different standards of care. Throw some back paddling and untruths in with your reply.

 

[Camp Cook]

Bwaah haa haa haa haa haa that was awesome clueless but totally awesome...

 

[alpining]

I've had a chance at several Ruger .44's and as attractive as they were to me the fact that parts may be a problem and my preference in a handgun is 357 I never made the jump and don't regret it. If I was already reloading for a .44 I might have jumped on one.....

Yeah, they're super interesting for sure. But fitting into a pretty small niche, and not one that greatly appeals to me.

 

[Camp Cook]

Took care of the yearling bull this morning

He weighed 191lbs hanging at the butcher

Used 14" barreled T/C Contender carbine in 45 Colt loaded with 345gr WLNGC's at 40 yards.



Scope is a Leupold 2.5x Compact LOL = the Boyds Gunstocks stocks were ordered purple/gray came pink/gray

 

[DTM5]

I Loved my Ruger .44 carbine but decided to switch it out for something a LOT more modern and ###y. In fact, I got two. The ultra modern, super cool Benelli Argo E Pro and Argo E Battue, both in .308. Shown here with Trijicon 1-4x and 1-6x respectively. Sweet shootin, non restricted semi autos.

 

[Camp Cook]

That orange stocked one is awesome