Defence loads ?

While ,I wouldn't use less then #4 Buck shot for a home type defence,at real close range how much would #9birdshot open up??? wouldn't it be like being hit by one big slug(not saying it is a slug.)
If you've played around with a shotgun much you know how much damage the shot cup alone can do at close range.
 
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Ripstop said:
I was talking to a friend who is an agent in the S.S., right now in Iraq. He suggested a 'slinky load'. If you reload, wind stainless safety wire around a pencil and then coil the wire into a shotshell. He recommended this against two legged predators. No adverse penetration of walls and he said afterward the predator will get a new job. Don't know how legal this is but sounds interesting. He said at 10' it will grow to the size of a basketball. :D
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I would strongly recommend against handloading defensive ammunition that could be used against "two legged varmints". It opens up way too many cans for opposing counsel to work with.

If possible to aquire, the best self-defence ammunition to use is exactly what your local police force uses. It's harder for counsel to make you out as some sick, twisted Rambo when you are using the same ammunition the police use to "protect society from evil".
 
Where as a single pellet of #4 or #00 can kill,part of the effect of a shotgun blast is the nervous system being over loaded by multiple hits at once.
So ,more pellets=better,But,like gushulak posted about heavy winter clothing being able to defeat smaller shot.
So,what to do ????
Also you kind of have to account for every pellet that dosen't hit your target.
I'am just rambling on,:dancingbanana: .
 
Check this link out:

h t t p ://www.frfrogspad.com/shotgun.htm

Aside from having all sorts of useful tips on using the shotgun on one's fellow human beings, it seems to indicate that no.1 buck is a good choice; more pellets per shell means more pellets on target downrange, it has almost double the ME per pellet as no.4, and it still penetrates almost as well as OO, at least at 7 yards.

You might want to load a slug first, a couple shells of OOO or OO next, and a couple of no.1's last.

The Box O'Truth did some testing of shotgun loads: see here:

h t t p ://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

Some excellent pictures on that site. It seems to show relatively little difference between no.4 and no.1, but given that the Bo'T test was against drywall, not ballistics gel, I'd still plunk for the no. 1
 
Tied buckshot

Back when I was a young kid, my uncle used to shoot wild boar with "tied buckshots"
These pellets had a thru hole and were tied together three by three with soft solder wire, allowing some slack so the pellets could move about just a little bit.
They stayed more in a group and only separated upon impact.
I guess one could do the same with brass wire and soft plastic cups today. At the time, they used an over-the-shot card and roll-crimping.
They shot at a boar at about 25 feet maximum, given the thick brush where the boar used to roam. Sometimes, they had to place themselves directly in the boar's path to see it coming, driven by the dogs; it was certainly fast and furious shooting.
PP.:cool:
 
The Federal LE-133 load with 8 pellets of 00Buck with the new flitecontrol wad is the best patterning buckshot load I have seen to date. With in 15 feet it will for the most part act like a rifled slug then start to spread very nicely.

Boltgun
 
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