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thanks for the info, i think im going to pass on it then i dont want to be stuck with a worthless rilfe incase i ever needed to sell, i guess ill save my money and go find some 8mm ammo for my k98 i just bought haha need to feed the old girl, now the question is were can i get some non corrosive 8mm haha
I picked up one about five years ago from Epps for $140 total. It was originally listed as $125 but the salesman dropped it to $100 plus shipping and tax when the CFC couldn't do the transfer that day (apparently not enough #s in the serial number).
These rifles #### on closing, and were rechambered into 8mm Mauser in the 1930s (which is why there's a cut in the reciever to fit the bullet from the longer 8mm cartridge). They may have particular appeal in the US on account of being pre 1898 rifles (all were built between 1893-1895) and seem to me to be pretty slick, if long rifles.
They won't be especially expensive rifles (they were extremely well priced when they first arrived in bulk from Turkey) but they are well built German-made rifles that make an interesting addition to any collection. Though I might have gotten a good price on mine (it has a nice bore to boot), I would consider $200 about the most I'd pay for one at this time.
These rifles #### on closing, and were rechambered into 8mm Mauser in the 1930s (which is why there's a cut in the reciever to fit the bullet from the longer 8mm cartridge). They may have particular appeal in the US on account of being pre 1898 rifles (all were built between 1893-1895) and seem to me to be pretty slick, if long rifles.
They won't be especially expensive rifles (they were extremely well priced when they first arrived in bulk from Turkey) but they are well built German-made rifles that make an interesting addition to any collection. Though I might have gotten a good price on mine (it has a nice bore to boot), I would consider $200 about the most I'd pay for one at this time.
The Turk riflles are some of the most underappreciated in milsurp history. Similar to Carcanos.
Don't ask me why though. They have been battle tested and proven reliable.
When they first started coming into the country, most of them were worn and pitted. They were all fucntional though and many bought them up for the cheap receivers. They came in 1891, 1893, 1898 and just about every variation ever made. Turkey, even made up their own, as well as built up an industry supporting the parts and maintenance for these rifles. They did the same thing for a myriad of other firearms as well, especially British Lee Enfields and other kit.
The Turk made rifles are likely the most valuable of any of the Mauser variants and usually distinguishable by the slightly rounded and protruding floorplate and the arabic writing on the left side of the receiver. I saw one this spring that was German made with a Turk floor plate. So beware.
Many of these Turk rifles were in working condition but poor repair. Badly worn barrels and receivers as well as beaten up stocks. Many were provincial as well as police issue. None of which had any money spent on repairs or parts.
These are the rifles that give the Turks a bad name I guess but the same can be said for many of the German offerings. I can't remember how many thousands of German as well as other variants from Europe that we broke down for parts. Some to assemble into whole rifles and many, just to sell the better parts off, like trigger guards with followers that weren't rusty, etc. Many just went to the scrap metal bin and wood pile. Quite frankly that's all they were good for.
Buying up a decent Turk Mauser at today's low prices, makes a lot of sense 20 years down the road. Sort of like buying the wrapped No4 MkIIs 20 years ago. Time will tell, and they aren't making any more of them. Not only that, the UN is asking them to destroy them, rather than put them on the market.
Don't ask me why though. They have been battle tested and proven reliable.
When they first started coming into the country, most of them were worn and pitted. They were all fucntional though and many bought them up for the cheap receivers. They came in 1891, 1893, 1898 and just about every variation ever made. Turkey, even made up their own, as well as built up an industry supporting the parts and maintenance for these rifles. They did the same thing for a myriad of other firearms as well, especially British Lee Enfields and other kit.
The Turk made rifles are likely the most valuable of any of the Mauser variants and usually distinguishable by the slightly rounded and protruding floorplate and the arabic writing on the left side of the receiver. I saw one this spring that was German made with a Turk floor plate. So beware.
Many of these Turk rifles were in working condition but poor repair. Badly worn barrels and receivers as well as beaten up stocks. Many were provincial as well as police issue. None of which had any money spent on repairs or parts.
These are the rifles that give the Turks a bad name I guess but the same can be said for many of the German offerings. I can't remember how many thousands of German as well as other variants from Europe that we broke down for parts. Some to assemble into whole rifles and many, just to sell the better parts off, like trigger guards with followers that weren't rusty, etc. Many just went to the scrap metal bin and wood pile. Quite frankly that's all they were good for.
Buying up a decent Turk Mauser at today's low prices, makes a lot of sense 20 years down the road. Sort of like buying the wrapped No4 MkIIs 20 years ago. Time will tell, and they aren't making any more of them. Not only that, the UN is asking them to destroy them, rather than put them on the market.
Allenby is the main reason that the Turks had such a heap of mixed rifles.
In the long drive up from Suez and then Gaza to Beersheba and then to Jerusalem and Armageddon and all the way to Damascus, the British captured huge numbers of prisoners.
The problem was that the British were trying to move FAST: even the 100-pounders had their own field trains of Holt Tractors to pull them, a tractor not needing to be fed and watered constantly. They just did not have enough troops to fight a war AND look after prisoners at the same time. One or the other had to go.
Being that wholesale massacres of prisoners simply were NOT done at that time (and even if it were standard practice, Allenby would not have done it), the Brits were STUCK with an ntire army of Turks.
Or were they?
The SOLUTION was simple: Johnny Turk was disarmed and turned loose to find his way home. Johnny's WEAPONS were piled in huge heaps, doused with fuel and set afire.
"They were beautiful rifles and they burned beautifully. I carried one for a while, but it didn't fit the brackets on my limber." Sgt. Angus Kellie, 380 Siege Bty, RA.
After the war was over, Turkey was left with a mixed bag of Mausers in 7.65x54 and 7.92x57. ALL of these were rebuilt in the 1930s as 7.92x57s.
The 7.65s were Model 1890, 1892, 1893, 1903, the 7.92s were German-provided war aid and were Models 1888-based and current 1898s.
If you run into ANY of them, you are looking at a Survivor AND a Veteran at the same time.
They look like hell because they have "been there, done that"...... before they went into the rebuild shop.
And a lot of them can REALLY shoot because they were rebuilt to "new" and then Turkey stayed out of the fighting in the Second War.
BTW, there is a scarce Turkish variant on these rebuild rifles, one called the 1888/35. It is a 1930s rebuild, looks like a standard Mauser long rifle but it is an 1888 Kommissionsgewehr action on a new stock of Circassian Walnut (ever try to buy a piece of it?) with a new Turkish-made HEAVY BARREL.
I have four Turked Mausers..... and they are NOT for sale. Too damned accurate to let them go to someone who will not appreciate them.
In the long drive up from Suez and then Gaza to Beersheba and then to Jerusalem and Armageddon and all the way to Damascus, the British captured huge numbers of prisoners.
The problem was that the British were trying to move FAST: even the 100-pounders had their own field trains of Holt Tractors to pull them, a tractor not needing to be fed and watered constantly. They just did not have enough troops to fight a war AND look after prisoners at the same time. One or the other had to go.
Being that wholesale massacres of prisoners simply were NOT done at that time (and even if it were standard practice, Allenby would not have done it), the Brits were STUCK with an ntire army of Turks.
Or were they?
The SOLUTION was simple: Johnny Turk was disarmed and turned loose to find his way home. Johnny's WEAPONS were piled in huge heaps, doused with fuel and set afire.
"They were beautiful rifles and they burned beautifully. I carried one for a while, but it didn't fit the brackets on my limber." Sgt. Angus Kellie, 380 Siege Bty, RA.
After the war was over, Turkey was left with a mixed bag of Mausers in 7.65x54 and 7.92x57. ALL of these were rebuilt in the 1930s as 7.92x57s.
The 7.65s were Model 1890, 1892, 1893, 1903, the 7.92s were German-provided war aid and were Models 1888-based and current 1898s.
If you run into ANY of them, you are looking at a Survivor AND a Veteran at the same time.
They look like hell because they have "been there, done that"...... before they went into the rebuild shop.
And a lot of them can REALLY shoot because they were rebuilt to "new" and then Turkey stayed out of the fighting in the Second War.
BTW, there is a scarce Turkish variant on these rebuild rifles, one called the 1888/35. It is a 1930s rebuild, looks like a standard Mauser long rifle but it is an 1888 Kommissionsgewehr action on a new stock of Circassian Walnut (ever try to buy a piece of it?) with a new Turkish-made HEAVY BARREL.
I have four Turked Mausers..... and they are NOT for sale. Too damned accurate to let them go to someone who will not appreciate them.
I have a very good condition Turk Mauser (Ankara 1938) that I got in trade from a fellow CGN'er. I was out hunting last week, and I finally got to put some mixed surplus 8mm through her; I was very pleased with the results! At roughly 100 meters, I got some decent groups, not bad considering the tiny v-notch sights, and shooting freehand with a massive hangover....
well i guess im getting it for $80
You are getting a pretty good deal if it's in any kind of shape at all,you'll feel better after you put a few rounds through it.
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If you like it, then buy it....
Everything doesnt have to be worth alot of money for you to collect and be happy with it...................
Everything doesnt have to be worth alot of money for you to collect and be happy with it...................
