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I have only seen good reviews for the SR-22. The 597VTR has been reported to have feeding problems. There are several youtube videos showing the problems with the 597VTR. That's why I chose to get the SR-22; yeah its more expensive but I haven't had any problems yet.
Go with the SR-22, from what I've read and seen the Ruger is a lot more reliable than the Remington, there is also a larger selection of magazines available for the Ruger, Tactical Innovations or Butler Creek are two very good choices, if you are gona go with the BC ones pick the ones with the steel lips. The only thing I can think of that the Remington does better than the Ruger is the bolt stays open on the last round, but its not a big enough plus to pick it over the 10/22.
just do a search on line yes there are problems with the 10/22 also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6BCk1Q0x9g
http://www.tngunowners.com/forums/g...new-500-rds-ruger-10-22-jamming-problems.html
I comes down to what you like the feel of and how much you are willing to spend. In my town the vtr is 2/3 the price and I had 0 issues out of the box.
I bought the 597VTR and a couple 30rnd mags a few weeks ago.
I opened the box, loaded the mags with bulk ammo and shot a few hundred rnds without any problems. Repeated the same a few days later. I haven't cleaned the rifle or adjusted the rods.
I have nearly 500 rnds through it with only two stopages - both failure to fire. Probably not the gun's fault.
The last shot hold-open feature IS great. The mag release is in the correct spot too.
I opened the box, loaded the mags with bulk ammo and shot a few hundred rnds without any problems. Repeated the same a few days later. I haven't cleaned the rifle or adjusted the rods.
I have nearly 500 rnds through it with only two stopages - both failure to fire. Probably not the gun's fault.
The last shot hold-open feature IS great. The mag release is in the correct spot too.
Ya. They pretty much share everything.
597 has last shot hold open, very nice feature.
Reliability? There are stories form both sides, I would say it is a dead heat... you either get a good one or a bad one it seems, like any other .22.
The Ruger has more accessories available, but how much are you going to change a VTR?
My advice... go to a store, handle both and decide which fits or feels better to you.
If you do get one that has issue, there is plenty of info on the net to make either one run like a clock.
Reliability? There are stories form both sides, I would say it is a dead heat... you either get a good one or a bad one it seems, like any other .22.
The Ruger has more accessories available, but how much are you going to change a VTR?
My advice... go to a store, handle both and decide which fits or feels better to you.
If you do get one that has issue, there is plenty of info on the net to make either one run like a clock.
Well, after more research it seems to me that it is better to save some more money and buy a good quality AR chambered for .223 than spend money on either SR22 or 597. The ammo price difference is not significant.
From what I read, the problems are with both rifles and reliability is very poor in both. In some article I read (should've saved the link
, sorry), the author refers to those rifles as a "poor man AR" (for those who decided to have just a look of AR or couldn't get RPAL) and suggests to buy a good quality .22 bolt rifle instead! May be this is the way I would go. AR and .22 bolt instead of one of the discussed rifles. Thoughts?
From what I read, the problems are with both rifles and reliability is very poor in both. In some article I read (should've saved the link
, sorry), the author refers to those rifles as a "poor man AR" (for those who decided to have just a look of AR or couldn't get RPAL) and suggests to buy a good quality .22 bolt rifle instead! May be this is the way I would go. AR and .22 bolt instead of one of the discussed rifles. Thoughts?I think prices are going to be significant.
1000rds of 223 = 500 bucks or so.
1000 rds of 22LR = 50 bucks.
So about 10 times more expensive. But if AR is your thing, then there's only one way to scratch that itch.
Take a look at the latest Norinco CQ 556A units popping up on EE and at dealers around - Marstar has some coming in, and others. Price=$699-ish, and almost all parts can be upgraded to whatever manufacturer or spec you're looking for.
Having said that, I'm enjoying my CQ, but I now want a .22LR for small varmint. I'll agree with the poster that said to buy either Remington or Ruger, and tune it to perfection
Having said that, I'm enjoying my CQ, but I now want a .22LR for small varmint. I'll agree with the poster that said to buy either Remington or Ruger, and tune it to perfection
Just ordered mine yesterday. The Ruger looks better too. Its on back order so maybe end of june the guy said.
Looks better? I guess beauty is in the eye of the weapon holder
. I think my VTR is far better looking and even with the Volquartsen upgrades it didn't cost anywhere near the Ruger and I would challenge any stock barrel SR22 to a shoot off any day. I can punch dime sized holes with 10 shots all day long!! YMMV
I'd have bought the S&W but who wants a restricted .22?
Handled one and thought it was really great.
I too am trying to decide between the Ruger and the Remington. Both are backordered everywhere.
One bit of advice I've heard on the Remington is to upgrade the extractor immediately.
Hope to hear from someone who has shot both...
Handled one and thought it was really great.
I too am trying to decide between the Ruger and the Remington. Both are backordered everywhere.
One bit of advice I've heard on the Remington is to upgrade the extractor immediately.
Hope to hear from someone who has shot both...
I think it is even a larger gap than that. I pay the following
1000rounds of .223 = $650
1000rounds of .22lr = $43
Which makes it over 15x more expencive to shoot my XCR over my Ruger. No wonder my Ruger has seem so much more action lately! Its sad my Ruger is getting itself an Aimpoint and my XCR is left with irons.
I actually shot SR22 yesterday in the range. One of the guys was generous enough to let me try. It is OK but I expected more... The guy put 1000$ (!!!) upgrades on it. It doesn't look like original gun no more, lol! He told me that it took about 1000 rnds to break it in and to bring it to the point where it will shoot reasonable groups. He is happy with it now but he is not a newb like me, so he knew HOW to "make" it shoot eventually.
I think I am going to ditch this idea of .22 AR all together and go with a nice bolt rifle in .22 caliber instead.
I think I am going to ditch this idea of .22 AR all together and go with a nice bolt rifle in .22 caliber instead.
