Depriming - Gotta Be Something Better Than By Hand...
- Thread starter thegazelle
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I wanted to deprime so I can wet tumble everything and the primer pocket and such won't have crud on it. Then I can resize and trim and then load...that's the plan anyway...
Yes the brass is wet tumbling as we speak with the SS pins...I set it for 2.5 hours. Poor kids are trying to figure out how to escape the noise. I should have put it in the garage.
Joe Amorosi
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Buy a Lee Universal decapping die as stated before
They work great for any caliber. Only about $25 bucks from Higginsons I think
1 extra step tho but, that's the way I do it, then tumble, then resize
I am getting married in 79 days...I don't think my soon to be wife would want to do the de-priming. I just had my kids do it this afternoon when they came home from school. My poor son and his red hands says "that's got to be a better way to do this". I just unboxed and mounted my single stage press so haven't gone through everything yet. I think my buddy told me not to use the press as it makes a complete mess, given that the collector tube thing on the FA hand deprimer is all fouled up. But it sounds like none of you are doing it by hand so I will look at the single stage components and figure out how to deprime with that.
If the 5.56 ones have the crimp, I may just toss them out. Seems like more trouble than its worth to decrimp them when I have thousands of .223 brass I can use.
Mine is RCBS Rock Chucker Supreme - came in a larger kit with manual scale, manual hand primer, lube pad, other stuff that I don't even know what it is. I don't think it came with a decapping die. Unless you mean bought separately. I will hit the LGS this weekend to see what I can find.
I just mounted my press to my bench this morning after getting the base mount from X-Reload. But stupid me, I didn't plan ahead and then drilled the mount onto the corner of my bench, forgetting to consider whether the press' holes align with the mount pre-drilled holes. One of the screws I bent and then subsequently stripped while removing - a handy guy I am not!
Let your kids use the press.......im not an expert by any means but I have never hand de-primed anything in my 15 years or so of reloading. My kids love helping me reload and de-priming is a good way for them to help if they are younger. Personally I enjoy every aspect of the process.
Thunderhog
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RCBS makes De-capping Dies.
RCBS Part #87585 for .27-.45 caliber
RCBS Part #87580 for .22-.25 caliber
Get them both, you will never hand de-prime ever again.......
Oh there certainly is. It is called a Lee APP paired with a case feeder and a Lee Universal Depriming Die. No mess, no fuss and deprimes as quickly as you can cycle the handle. Takes out those crimped primers as easy as pie.
Note: I have tried both the Universal Deprime Die and the APP Deprime Kit and the Universal die is WAY better.
Because depriming is messy and dirty and the granular dirt gets into the sizing die and ruins it. You will end up with dirt, dust and a million primers on the floor.
Yes, it certainly can. Thats why I love my Lee APP. All the primers and their dirt are captured by a sealed bottle. No more mess.
Thanks...it looks like the Lee APP is quite well regarded...
BattleRife
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Here is your problem... defective friend advice. Common in those new to (insert common activity here).
I've been reloading for 35 years and never heard of a hand depriming tool 'til now. Just press-mounted dies, or the Lee mallet-powered Loader tools. Forget about him and put your dies in your press like everybody else.
It's possible that factories that produce crimped military ammo make their civilian ammo that way too rather than having separate tooling. Side benefit is that it's a PITA for reloading so maybe they sell more factory ammo to shooters who don't want to deal with the hassle?!
May vary from one manufacturer/headstamp to another but it's a known issue to recognize when it comes up.
May vary from one manufacturer/headstamp to another but it's a known issue to recognize when it comes up.
I like the hand deprimer as I can spend time with the fam upstairs while I do it. I have found some brands just not worth the hassle to deprime though. Once you have the difficult (crimped) primers out the new primers won't fit in without swagging first.
Brass is worth a little I had a box of damaged or too difficult brass that I sent to the recyclers. I ended up with $30.
Brass is worth a little I had a box of damaged or too difficult brass that I sent to the recyclers. I ended up with $30.
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You say that you have thousands of .223 brass - remember that all brass is not reputed to be the same - you might have to sort that stuff. I have some IVI ex-military brass that was considered to be "good" stuff - it required removing the crimping ring - but that is done only once and the cases are then good for many, many reloads. Of course, if you are the type of shooter to just "spray" and do not bother to pick up your fired brass, then probably any brand will do.
It is like going down a "rabbit hole" - today, I think there are sellers selling RUAG Ammotecc USA, Inc. brand brass that has European MFS head stamps - so who sold it at retail, no longer has much to do with who actually made it. So do you want RUAG stuff or MFS stuff?? I used to think Remington (R-P) and Winchester-Western (W-W) made their own brass (and maybe they still do), but I do not think everything sold as R-P or W-W is made by those companies - certainly the current red-label W-W brass is NOT the same as the blue label bags of it that I used to get.
It is not likely that you will re-insert a fresh primer into a case that still has remnants of the crimp around the primer pocket.
Then you will need a recipe that tells you how much of what kind of powder to use with which bullet, with that primer and that case - some think it is all interchangeable - it is likely up to you to determine whether or not it is for you, and your type of shooting criteria.
langfordbc
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Sorry, I was just referring to using a decapping die in your single stage. I don’t believe the kit comes with one.
Edit: mine is Lee, not RCBS.
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Awesome thank you...will get those and also the universal Lee die...RCBS makes De-capping Dies.
RCBS Part #87585 for .27-.45 caliber
RCBS Part #87580 for .22-.25 caliber
Get them both, you will never hand de-prime ever again.......
Thanks...I always pick up my brass, and pretty much use the same brands...PMC, PPU, Federal, S&B Winchester, Aguila with the occasional Hornady, Sako and Nosler.
Yeah, I will be identifying the crimped cartridges and then probably just discard them - not sure the juice is worth the squeeze in this area. I have so much .223 and 5.56 rounds (shot that regularly at the range for years, before the lovely government banned the guns) - I still have lots of factory, but figure I still have some bolt actions that shoot those...the reloading interest is purely out of curiosity and gaining an appreciation to a different facet of firearms ownership - plus it is pretty hilarious for a non-handy guy, I set up quite a nice workbench/reloading bench that my kids tell me looks like I have been doing it for years...except all the equipment is all new and shiny and there are manuals everywhere...lol... It is also great because the reloading forums was one aspect of CGN I never paid attention to previously...now I am newfound interest!
No need to get both Lee and RCBS, they do the same thing.
Your sizing die also deprimes as part of the process, so you don't NEED to buy anything to do it.
