DG with a single shot

Went down to the dugout this afternoon with my No 1 375 Weatherby magnum to beat up the steel plate a bit. Had this posting in mind and tried to push that 2nd shot fast...dangerous game? Not this fellow with a No 1.
Heck the loads weren't even hot. Mind you I'm not a big fellow, but I'm not recoil sensitive. But under duress...thanks, but no thanks.
Giraffe....sure. Cape Buff...not sure, lol.
Stuff with tusks and teef's...count me out in the No 1.
Heck a Martini - Enfield is more conducive to the follow up 2nd shot than the No 1.
 
I think the biggest risk as quite a few with good experience on the subject pointed out is the difficulty in the "keep shooting" department. You'll get one round for sure into it, a second if you're lucky, and for an experienced hunter that'll do it most of the time handily. But that other bit of the time, it would be sickening still walking hours later looking for blood specks on what is likely to be the biggest hunt you'll undertake. Admittedly as notlim2424 pointed out I'm going back to where this thread started, and ground well covered. I still vote double rifle. ;)
 
Cam-nice looking 450. But holy Jesus man-you're going to try and get 500 grain x 2400fps in a 7.5lb gun?
I can defend you wanting to shoot one Buffalo at a time with it but you are obviously trying to line up two or three and take them with the same shot!

Recoil will be brisk... Very brisk

Fyi- the load I settled on in my Lott was a 450grn tsx at 2250- recoil is pretty mild and it stoned the first two Buffalo I shot with it DRT.
 
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I may look at using a mercury recoil reducer to add some weight. May also get a limbsaver, but find them so ugly. I also like the LOP as is.

I've never taken issue with shooting heavy .458s and .416s, but I'm thinking pushing a 500 grain bullet fast in this thing will be a whole new world.
 
Gun fit is everything when it comes to recoil management. I'm not one of those guys who pipes up in every thread about a caliber bigger than .270 with some cutesy comment about broken collar bones and whiplash. I shoot my .458 comfortably, and use .375's regularly on coyotes...but I must say that I hope the Ruger #1 fits you better than it does me. I love #1 rifles, but gave up on using them in anything bigger than .300-calibers, simply because they beat the snot out of me with cartridges that don't make me blink in other rifles.
 
I'm sure you are aware that there really isn't a need to push it up into 460 weatherby territory. The Original 480x2150 load revolutionized hunting and set the standard all others were judged by. If it wasn't for the British ban it surely would have remained as "the cartridge".
470ne would of been an obscure footnote in history.
If you want to though- have at it. I'm sure it will be invigorating;)
 
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jjohnwm said:
Gun fit is everything when it comes to recoil management. I'm not one of those guys who pipes up in every thread about a caliber bigger than .270 with some cutesy comment about broken collar bones and whiplash. I shoot my .458 comfortably, and use .375's regularly on coyotes...but I must say that I hope the Ruger #1 fits you better than it does me. I love #1 rifles, but gave up on using them in anything bigger than .300-calibers, simply because they beat the snot out of me with cartridges that don't make me blink in other rifles.
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Me too JJ......had a #1 in 458 and it was very ugly to shoot, have had several other bolts in the same which I found much more pleasant to shoot and were not much if any heavier. The poor recoil pad and there is too much drop in the stock for real heavy calibers.JMHO and YMMV
 
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I'm sure you are aware that there really isn't a need to push it up into 460 weatherby territory. The Original 480x2150 load revolutionized hunting and set the standard all others were judged by. If it wasn't for the British ban it surely would have remained as "the cartridge".
470ne would of been an obscure footnote in history.
If you want to though- have at it. I'm sure it will be invigorating;)
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General plan is to get a load that will lobe the 500 grain TSX at 2400 fps, but for regular shooting I want to find a load to mimic traditional ballistics. I'll pull out the heavy loads if I feel like I need some invigorating :)


jjohnwm said:
Gun fit is everything when it comes to recoil management. I'm not one of those guys who pipes up in every thread about a caliber bigger than .270 with some cutesy comment about broken collar bones and whiplash. I shoot my .458 comfortably, and use .375's regularly on coyotes...but I must say that I hope the Ruger #1 fits you better than it does me. I love #1 rifles, but gave up on using them in anything bigger than .300-calibers, simply because they beat the snot out of me with cartridges that don't make me blink in other rifles.
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Stock fit and experience are indeed the key to recoil management. When I was a teenager the first rifle I bought and paid for was a Enfield No. 5. Now factory loaded .303 does not give out very impressive ballistic numbers, but; that rifle was light and fit me poorly. The recoil was obnoxious, combined with my inexperience it was too much for me and I flinched when I shot it. As my experience grew it became quite sedate to shoot, although it still kicked more than numbers should suggest due to poor stock fit. My first magnum was a 7mm RM built off a Mauser 98 and probably weighed 9 lbs scoped. This rifle fit me very well, but I was still very inexperienced with centerfire rifles when I bought it and found recoil to affect my shooting after a couple groups. This illustrates how important experience shooting is to managing recoil, but even with experience poor stock fit will amplify recoil in any cartridge.

After a few thousand rounds of centerfire put down range I first tried shooting friend's .375s, .416s and .458s it really was no big deal. Shooting dozens of .375 H&H in a day, even with a well fitting rifle, would make me flinch just thinking about it back when I found the old No 5 too much. Now I don't skip a beat. I have no issue launching 200 grain pills out of a 300 all day from the bench when a well fitting heavy Mauser in 7mm RM used to beat me up in 10 shots or less.

I've kind of digressed, but No. 1s do fit me well. As noted the buttstock design is not ideal to heavy recoil, I'll have to be mindful of my cheek weld. Although I have shot a fair number of rifles over .40cal, none have been this light and pushing the cartridge is sure to put recoil far higher than anything I have experienced. I would be smart to keep performance to traditional levels, and I most likely will for most practice with this rifle. I still want to have the higher performance rounds on hand though.

Either way discussing my new rifle got the thread a little off topic.

I think someone with a double, a bolt and a single in compable DG cartridges should shot clock times to get off X # of aimed shots. 2 shots, 4 shots, 6 shots ect. I'd be willing to bet that, assuming a 2 round reload is needed, a single could get off 6 shots faster than the bolt shooter.
 
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