Did a Library and Archives Canada search on my Great Grandpa

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Hello everyone,

Not sure if anyone will find this interesting, but I sure did. My great grandfather on my father's side (Grandma's father) was the only one in my direct family to fight in either WW I or WW II. My Grandpa on my Mother's side was training to be a pilot, but never made it to Europe before the war ended. All my other Grandfather's or Great Grandfather's were either to young or too old for either war.

When visiting Nova Scotia I had seen a couple pictures of him, but he passed away before I was born and no one knew too much of his wartime service as he was very quiet about it. My Grandfather said he would only ever tell funny stories about his buddies during the war. The one "battle" story he told was that once a German sharpshooter was giving them troubles and my Great Grandfather snuck up the flank to get a shot, the only thing exposed on the sharpshooter was his foot, my Great Grandfather made the shot and the sharpshooter was taken prisoner quickly thereafter. This story was also only told humorously, and even then my Grandfather only heard the story once.

He was 25 years old when he enlisted in September 1939. He was married and had a 4 year old daughter (My Grandma).

Wanting to learn more I filled out the forms and waited 6 months and the Library and Archives of Canada delivered over 30 pages of information. Also, I bought the regimental history of the West Nova's, and as luck would have it, it is the best unit history book I have ever read. The writer (T.H. Raddall) did an absolutely superb job, so I was able to read along in excellent detail about the battles the man fought in. The Regiment's war diary is also available in PDF format on the internet.

This photo was labeled Oct. 1939
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His Attestation Paper:
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His record of Service:
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This sheet gives a bit more info about him being listed sick in Dec 1943:
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So he enlisted in Sept. 1939, left for England with the WNSR in Dec. 1939. Came back to NB for most of 1942 to train recruits in small arms. Rejoined the WNSR in time for the Invasion of Sicily, ended up being promoted to CSM. On December 10 1943 he is listed as sick "S-4 Shell Fire Effects" and leaves Italy. Spends the rest of the war training in the UK eventually ending up as RSM of a training Regiment, coming home in September 1945. Other than 8 months in 1942 he spent 6 years away from his young family, a feat I couldn't imagine even without combat.

After the war he went on to join the Coast Guard as a light house keeper, including St. Paul's Island. My Grandma always told me tales of living as the daughter of a lighthouse keeper.

This picture is from 1966:
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I have a few questions. Is there anyway I can find out what company he was in during the Italian Campaign? On his attestation paper is says A coy, but there is no other mention in any other document. I assume that it could have easily changed between Sept 39 and the Summer of 1943.

Also, I assume S-4 shell fire effects is a PTSD or "shell shock" sickness, is this correct?
 
Melvin John Tanner, Thank You Sir for your Service to Canada.

RIP

cam1936, thanks for posting, it was an honour to get to know your Great Grandfather.
 
Excellent. Did you have to get next of kin to sign anything to release the info?

No, next of kin consent is needed if they have died within the last 10 years IIRC. I had to provide a picture of his tombstone to confirm his date of death.

An interesting tidbit: Grandpa Tanner was an avid hunter, his discharge papers indicate he was planning to open a hunting/taxidermy store. Despite obvious experience with the Enfield (He was good enough to teach small arms courses) he spent the rest of his life hunting with a sporterized M98.
 
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There is a smudgy mention of a Pulhems test result. A modern soldier would recognize that as the medical category (vision, colour vision, hearing etc etc).

An infantryman with a bad foot is no use to the regiment. But I suspect the system saw greater value in him as a trainer and staff NCO than back in combat. To be Left Out of Battle was not a proud place for fighting troops because it meant they were next in line as replacements.
 
Neat stuff! Thanks for posting.

I downloaded papers for an old uncle who married my Dad's sister. He went to South Africa c. 1900, and also went over to Europe for the Great War. I also downloaded the "sign up" papers for another WW1 veteran. He was also involved in WW2. I had a visit with his 95 year old son on Canada Day. He was overseas in WW2.

I grew up surrounded by Boer War, Great War, WW2, and Korean War veterans. I loved these men, and miss them. Many of them carried some severe mental and physical scars from their involvement in wars. Especially I had an affection for the First Nations and Metis men who came back from fighting in foreign lands to find themselves being ignored and left out. I knew one First Nation man quite well.

May all those men rest in peace.
 
I downloaded my great grandfather's WW1 records from the archives. I never met the man as he died before I was born. I found this page a bit sad and I would guess many had similar entries on their records.

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When he came home he was a drunk and apparently a "mean" one. My great grandmother had a rough life with him afterwards.

I also got the records for his brother. He only lasted a year or so at the front with lots of medical problems and ended up back in England with the postal corps.

Auggie D.
 
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I did the same thing to find some info on a relation on my wife's side.
I was very impressed with the records kept in WW1. Unfortunately his was also mostly full of reports dealing with his PTSD as well.
One question though. I have a couple of pistols that were issued to him in WW1. Did they not put the serial numbers of the weapons issued to them in their records anywhere? I have gone through his records a couple times and have been unable to find this information. I just figured it might be something they would do.
Any ideas?
 
I've never seen an individual's service record that included serial numbers of weapons issued. I expect who the weapons were issued to was recorded by the armourer who issued them.
 
Glad this real history is available .Happy for those that found theirs.
Rather than some of the political crap that is for the media
 
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