Did I imagine it - 1911 in 38 with 22 convert kit in EE?

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I swear I saw this in the EE a few weeks ago but cant locate it and don't recall it going "Pls Remove". I foolishly did not tag it for subscription so now I doubt my sanity or memory or both..... I didn't have my RPAL then but it arrived this week....

It was a 1911 in 38 special with a 22 LR conversion kit.

If it is there and you can find it let me know or if it was your post let me know even if it is sold.

Interested in buying and/or confirming my mind state.

Thanks in advance.
 
for the low price of $1500 you can get the Browning 1911-22-A1 and 1911-380 in a 1911 frame that is 80% the size of the original. I guess I should mention small/medium hands apply only.

I have the 22, thinking about the 380. in any case, the 22 is my favorite gun!
 
Good! I am not really gun nuts!

Bad! it is gone.....

I liked the idea of compete IPSC in 38 (since I believe it is just large enough) and be able to train/plink some with cheaper and easier recoil 22 with the same frame and grip and trigger. I hope to get set for CAS as well in 38.

So obviously that is WTB on my side whoever just picked it up or of it was pulled due to lack of interest.

Mr. friendly thanks but I cant spend that much even if I had small to medium hands.... I guess my hands are bigger than my wallet.

Thanks for the responses.
 
for the low price of $1500 you can get the Browning 1911-22-A1 and 1911-380 in a 1911 frame that is 80% the size of the original. I guess I should mention small/medium hands apply only.

I have the 22, thinking about the 380. in any case, the 22 is my favorite gun!

I have the 1911-22 as well, and I have to admit, it is also my favorite gun to shoot. Can't really explain why. but it always comes to the range on every trip, and I have very large hands.
 
Not quite the same but I have a Sig 220 that came in .22 but I've since bought a .45 conversion kit. When I feel frugal (not cheap!!:p) I fire the .22 and when I want to make a bigger bank I install the .45 slide, barrel and mag and then have some fun. Both are incredibly accurate so I can only blame any wingers on the shooter, not the pistol, sigh.
 
Sarge,

Thanks for that further clarification of the existence and details of the post in question. I am aware they are different rounds but was foggy on what the gun in question really was which is why I wanted to go back to it. I tend to get to the forum later at night and don't take Notes.... but I should.

My interest remains on a 1911 that will chamber 30 special and convert to 22LR.
 
however to further compound the issue , colt did make a special Olympic model 1911 in 38 special, chambered for midrange wadcutters- as to how well it worked, I have no idea
 
however to further compound the issue , colt did make a special Olympic model 1911 in 38 special, chambered for midrange wadcutters- as to how well it worked, I have no idea

Colt also produced the Gold Cup National Match 1911 in .38 Spl [for 148 gr midrange wadcutters].

They come up on the EE from time to time.

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Very likely not. Semi autos tend to be fussy about the OAL of the cartridge and there's a .1" difference from .38Spl to Magnum.

Just like the guns that shoot the .38Spl's from regular size frames only accept fully buried wadcutter bullets to keep the OAL short enough to fit in the magazines which have to fit in the magwell.

Anyone that has shot a Coonan will tell you that it's a special VERY DEEP frame to allow for the very deep magazines to hold the .357Mag rounds. They don't fee that nice in the hand for most of us as a result.

Plinkercases, you'll be wanting to settle in on a few different calibers and ammo sizes. But a 1911 that is rare and only works with full on wadcutters isn't going to be common or inexpensive. If you want your guns to share something you'd be far better off getting a 1911 in .45acp and then your cowboy guns in .45Colt. The brass is different but at least they can share your stock of bullets for reloading. And reload you will soon want to do when you see the prices for factory ammo for those calibers.

Alternately pick a common and cheap to buy and cheap to reload 9mm as your semi auto cartridge and .38Spl as your revolver and cowboy rifle cartridge.

Even there though you'll soon find that most cowboy action rifles that are less costly are chambered in .357mag and you'll find that they tend to jam when running fast if you don't use the magnum cases for the extra length.

Or you could go "seriously cowboy" and get your revolvers and rifle in .38-40 or .44-40. But then these don't fit into ANY other more modern style gun.

Bottom line is that you'll never be able to settle in on one or even two calibers. Plan on supporting at least 5 or 6 by the time you factor in rimfire, revolver and semi auto handguns and a rifle or two in rifle calibers.

I tried to hold the line on the caliber confusion and I feel I've done sort of OK. With .22LR and 12Ga included I'm up to 10 different ammo types in the cabinet. I started off with honorable intentions of holding it to 8. But that went down the flusher fairly early on. Oh wait. I forgot about the .44-40 I got recently and didn't include the round ball muzzle loaders. That raises it to 14 different types of ammo/calibers.

You can try to fight it but even a minimal collection will quickly see you supporting at least a half dozen calibers or ammo types.
 
BC thanks for the good insight.

While keeping ammo types down was one factor I was also hoping to stay lower in competition allowed calibers (and thus common) to save wear and tear on my not so young wrists and hands. And cheaper perhaps off the shelf than the 40 plus cartridges? I didn't realise 38 spl was a harder to get ammo....

I think perhaps this is the new direction: (actually my first thoughts but then the idea of everything in 38spl after that post I thought I saw)....
1911 9mm convert kit to 22LR (eventually)
Cowboy guns in 357 and/or 38sp. There is a Marlin 1894C in 38 and lots of wheel guns that say 357 and 38. There is a Ruger Blackhawk convertible that has a 357 and 9mmluger cylinder.... someday. Not sure if it is CAS legal? Could I get a 1911 in 9mm luger and this convertible to get another ammo match?

I have good co2 cowboy guns for training for now... real cheap to run and then someday...

Lever and wheel gun(s) for training/plinking in 22LR

I doubt I will shoot enough (shooting= time+ money....) in the next year or 2 to get into reloading... but we shall see.

Yhen there is some bigger bores fro longer range "target" shooting and of course a cowboy shot gun..... crap.
 
the ruger Blackhawk convertible is just a 38/357 with a 9mm cylinder- same with the 45cap/45 colt, but the 45 bore FITS - the 9mm does NOT- look at your bullet diameters- the 9mm is 355- the 38/357 is 357- the 9mm convertible is a little "sloppy" in that bore- the 45 works b/c they're BOTH 452
38 spcl is NOT a harder to get ammo- GETTING IT IN AUTOMATIC is-
 
Can those beautiful Coonan's shoot 38 special? Really curious.

Yes but with the 10 lb spring that comes with the gun (for 38 spl that is. the 357 spring is 22 lb) it will only cycle +p loads. I've picked up some wolf low power variable springs to try (ranging from 5-9 lb), so i hope one will work with lower power factor 38 spl. If you want to dedicate it to 38 spl, Coonan also recommends a lighter main spring.
 
There's lots of reports out there that the Convertables in .357/9mm do OK and lots that say that they shoot tighter groups with the proper fitting .357 bullets. Some get around the issue by using the slightly larger cast lead bullets in their 9mm reloads. So getting a good one is partly luck of the draw and partly looking at options that make it work.

I've never seen the lure of it though. I suppose for someone with a few semi autos that wants to by ONE single action revolver it makes some sort of sense. But once you get a little or long way past that one lonely revolver then there's simply no big reason for a Convertible that I can see. And I passed that point long before I bought my first single action by getting a couple or three S&W hand ejector models. So I was already fully dedicated to both 9mm in my semi autos and .38Spl for revolvers.

If you're hands and wrists are a little crunchy then you'll love .38Spl in general and reloading for it in particular. Revolvers don't care how strong or light you load up your ammo as long as it doesn't blow up the gun. Semi autos, on the other hand, need enough power to cycle the gun. And I find that with 9mm vs .38 this means that some of the semi auto guns tend to snap at the hand more sharply than the revolvers.

This ability to tailor your loads to suit your personal recoil happiness is yet another selling point for loading your own ammo.

For sure if you want to minimize the shock from the semi autos you'll want to run an all metal gun. See if you can try out someone's CZ Shadow as an example. Or look at some of the 1911's in 9mm. If you'll be shooting in competitions like IPSC or IDPA then STRONGLY consider the Shadow. It'll let you sit down in the Production or Stock class with the rest of us bottom feeders :d

Also if you work on getting a set of cowboy guns you'll find that running .38Spl from a lever gun with the ammo that is suitable for cowboy action feels just a hair stronger than shooting a rimfire rifle.

Madcow and gdawg, thanks for the info on the Coonan. I didn't realize that they came with an optional spring. Are they a little fussy on the OAL? Or do you guys load the Specials a little longer or does the magazine engage the rims so the Specials sit back where they should be other than the one being fed?

I handled and shot one some years ago. But it was just a magazine's worth. My main impression was mostly geared to the big kick from a semi auto and the front to back depth of the frame that made it an awkward gun to hold securely.
 
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