Did you ever actually use your forward assist? - How'd that go?

[jory]

That piece of mind is pointless and could induce a stoppage. Press checks don't work in the dark. I'll ask you what I've asked all in the thread. Why do you not feel confident in the rifle loading the first round, but feel confident with it after each press of the trigger??

It sure does work in the dark- under NODS it's as simple as a quick feel for the brass in the chamber. I don't understand what stoppage could be induced by 100% making sure that there's a round chambered and the bolt is fully forward.

The difference between me loading my first round vs my rifle chambering the next is human error. A press check is a buffer against me making an administrative error, or correcting a potential mechanical one prior to my COF

 

[JoKa]

And hes starting to sound like the result of someone who didnt check his condom before using it lol

Lol Murray going savage

I think the whole point is, there are people on here that NEEDED it because something didnt go right. That in itself is why it is still on there.
Regardless on how things SHOULD be.

 

[GuiltySpark]

This might sting, but soldiers by and large aren't gun guys. They retain what they have been trained and rarely do they think for themselves.

I don't think that will sting at all as I'd imagine most would agree. Even among the combat arms who theoretically shoot more, they're not often "gun guys".
Suggesting soldiers don't think for themselves is probably true for some guys. Rarely think for themselves though? What are you basing your opinion on? Your time in the military?

Also gotta watch out for that Dunning-Kruger effect too

I know plenty of serving members and not very many are what I would call savvy with firearms.

That depends on you're own comprehension of firearms to set the bar for someone else. Know what kind of fallacy that is?

Can you explain how your rifle randomly decides to stop feeding rounds from a function magazine when properly inserted into a functional(in spec) rifle?? I'm still waiting for someone to answer the question as to why you don't trust the rifle to load the first round properly, but under use you do??

Easy.
All your talking about functioning this and in spec that is bordering on equivocation. Your perfect gun with perfect parts with perfect magazines in perfect weather in a perfect world (paraphrasing) simply isn't how the world works.

3 gun is awesome. If you don't use a FA when your shooting 3 gun that's great.

It wasn't designed for shooting competitions with the m16/ar15. It was designed for assault rifles midway through the Vietnam war. Because for various reasons the Bcg was sticking.

How does a rifle randomly get stoppages? Anywhere from a bunch of reasons to 'it just does'. Whether it's in spec or not.

 

[CaseyK]

Very occasionally cartridges won’t feed, also as per press check.
More commonly operating in sub zero temperatures.
I have used it enough on the X to merit I wouldn’t leave home without.

 

[TK-Hryciuk]

Our new C7 doctrine specifically uses the FA during press checks after readying the rifle to ensure that your first trigger pull will in fact be a bang.

 

[Overlander2018]

Yes I have. In my reserve unit we had an exercise towards the end of the fiscal year meant to use up all the live ammunition allotted to the unit for the year.
We had different stations, C7, C6, C9, M203, mortar, karl gustav etc... the C7 station had about 10 rifles going through a ridiculous amount of ammunition. When I was up at the C7s they were gumed up like hell and I had to use the forward assist everytime I put in a new mag in. Obviously not a great idea to treat rifles that way but hey do as your told right...

I've also had to use it once on my M&P but that was my fault I rode the charging handle forward.

 

[Paul_1982]

Yup. Both many moons ago in the reserves and today in my current profession. My employer must have got a deal on Norc 5.56 a few years ago. The end of a long range day the BCG gums up pretty good when being worked hard with that ammo.

 

[griffin86]

Yes I have. In my reserve unit we had an exercise towards the end of the fiscal year meant to use up all the live ammunition allotted to the unit for the year.
We had different stations, C7, C6, C9, M203, mortar, karl gustav etc... the C7 station had about 10 rifles going through a ridiculous amount of ammunition. When I was up at the C7s they were gumed up like hell and I had to use the forward assist everytime I put in a new mag in. Obviously not a great idea to treat rifles that way but hey do as your told right...

I've also had to use it once on my M&P but that was my fault I rode the carry handle forward.

That sounds like fun.

 

[Astute Observer]

Definitely used it in the CAF. Especially when I'd neglected to maintain my rifle as a stupid Pte and needed it to cycle ammo properly.

 

[lerch641]

All this talk of forward assists and my new teardrop showed up for the Green Bastard

 

[stovepipe699]

You’re supposed to give it a whack with your palm when you load, and was added after guys in Vietnam had issues on the battlefield. If the bolt isn’t closing completely it’s the only thing you have to get a shot off. And yes I’ve needed it. Enough rounds through it that it’s getting sticky, something ending up in the action during an attack. It’s a battle rifle. Troops use it how they are trained to, because experience has shown it to be the most effective. As far as comments about most soldiers not being “gun guys”, I was an avid hunter and shooter when I joined years ago. My marksmanship improved drastically, and I’d love to watch some civilian “gun guys” try the infantry run down.