Diemaco Cutaway C8 Carbine

[Yeandle31]

Hey all,

I thought some of you might find this interesting. I was at Colt Canada taking a C8 Armourer's Course and saw this cutaway C8 as a training aid. Of note is the fact that they used an experimental C7A1 lower receiver.

Cheers,
Kevin

 

[BIG SHOOTZ]

sweet

 

[polskadude]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

 

[J.Hancock]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

That's already implemented eh? So ordering "replica" bb guns is technically now illegal? Inquiring minds..

 

[lerch641]

That's already implemented eh? So ordering "replica" bb guns is technically now illegal? Inquiring minds..

It's nothing new

 

[Komodo]

That's already implemented eh? So ordering "replica" bb guns is technically now illegal? Inquiring minds..

Dont think so a bb gun is a firearm under the code not a replica firearm. But it is not subject to the firearms act if under 500 fps


replica firearm means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm; 



2. In this Act, "firearm" means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...kle+of+the+bailey+what+is+a+firearm&FORM=VDRE

 

[J.Hancock]

Dont think so a bb gun is a firearm under the code not a replica firearm. But it is not subject to the firearms act if under 500 fps


replica firearm means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm; 



2. In this Act, "firearm" means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...kle+of+the+bailey+what+is+a+firearm&FORM=VDRE

Ahh, thank you.

 

[Galt]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

interesting , because aren't deactivated firearms allowed to be imported ie all those welded Krinks and 74s that were around a few years ago?

 

[jiffx2781]

interesting , because aren't deactivated firearms allowed to be imported ie all those welded Krinks and 74s that were around a few years ago?

I think they would argue that a cutaway firearm, although incapable of discharging ammunition, is not technically a deactivated firearm because it was not "deactivated" according to the guidelines for deactivation.

Just my .02

 

[Galt]

I think they would argue that a cutaway firearm, although incapable of discharging ammunition, is not technically a deactivated firearm because it was not "deactivated" according to the guidelines for deactivation.

Just my .02

that makes more sense than it being a replica.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

Despite the chatter about deacts and replicas, Diemaco has all the licences to make whatever the military wants. And that cutaway is impressive!

 

[Karnage]

interesting , because aren't deactivated firearms allowed to be imported ie all those welded Krinks and 74s that were around a few years ago?

All those Krinks and AK's were imported as complete prohibited firearms then deactivated to Canadian RCMP standards.

Try importing a prohib dewat today. Damn near impossible.
The RCMP will consider it a fully functioning prohibited firearm (with all the same import laws applied) until it was been deemed not so.

So, way easier for appropriately licenced businesses in Canada just to import full autos then dewat here.

 

[Boltgun]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

in this case, that is a prohib firearm as the lower can fit on a functioning upper and in fact fire

Boltgun

 

[pcvando]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

This is incorrect.

It depends on a number of factors. But generally, no, a cutaway is NOT considered a replica firearm.

A Lee Enfield cutaway for example could be NR, R, Prohib, or considered a non-firearm depending on what has been done.

A replica is; a device that is not a real firearm, but one that was designed to look exactly, or almost exactly, like a real firearm. Replica firearms are prohibited devices in Canada.

However, there are other categories for airsoft, etc.

As per the criminal code; replica firearm means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm; (réplique)

A cutaway C8 is NOT a replica, because it is NOT an imitation. It is a REAL firearm, converted to a training aid. It is a 12(2) automatic.

 

[KotKotofeich]

Fun fact, Cutaway firearms are prohibited in Canada, they are classified as replica firearms, since they cannot discharge a bullet.
I tried to import some teaching aids and everything was denied. Amazing laws.

I had to deal with exporting one recently and I got a somewhat different explanation. Foreign Affairs - the guys who approve this stuff - generally treat the cutaways just as a _live_ gun and if it was full auto to begin with then it's prohib with everything it entails. The subject gun in this post is likely still on Colt Canada inventory as a prohibited firearm. Something to do with 'it's only deactivated if it's done to the RCMP lab standard'. So anything that would be NR or R is still both importable and exportable. Anything that would be P is exportable.

(and I see pcvando's answer now which matches my information with one exception - the c8 in this post will not have a 12.2 designation - that is reserved for firearms held by individuals at the tie of grandfathering. Firearms that were not grandfathered, like those held by businesses are simply 'prohibited'. No 12.2 holder will be able to buy this one.)

 

[laurencen]

interesting , because aren't deactivated firearms allowed to be imported ie all those welded Krinks and 74s that were around a few years ago?

Im pretty sure importing deactivated firearms has issues, they have to be imported as functioning firearms regardless if they can actually be fired