difference between 40x and standard Walker trigger

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Does anyone know the difference between the 40x standard trigger and the older Rem 700 or walker trigger. The 40x goes down to 1 1/2 pounds and the standard 700 Walker who knows. I have worked on the standards for years but never even seen a 40x standard [not 3 lever 2oz]. Schematics show them to be the same except the 40x is externally adjustable. Just curious.
 
I believe there are a couple versions of a "40X' trigger. One very light (ounces), one not so light (1.5 pounds?)... but basically the not so light trigger has a finer weight adjustment (tapered point screw pushing on a ball bearing against a spring) than the standard old 700 "walker" trigger.

Maybe Bill will see this and fill it in...
 
Far as I know one was a Remington Walker with external pull weight adjustment and I believe the low ounce version was made by Hart also with external pull weight adjustment.
 
There are at least the two versions, a three lever 2oz and the other standard which is supposed to go down to 1 1/2 lb. It has the "finer" external adjustment via a small steel ball but at the end of the day still exerts only a given amount of pressure on the connector which one can duplicate with the standard trigger. Just seems there must be more difference for Remington to advertise the 40x down to 1 1/2 lb. as normal and there is no way the 700 Walker would do this - takes a lot of tuning and a good trigger to start with to get this low or slightly lower, and then I wouldn't lend the rifle out. Maybe the 40x doesn't perform as it's supposed to?
 
The standard 40X trigger was just the 700 trigger with the w-o-p adjustment screw accessible with the rifle assembled. Most Walker triggers can be adjusted to 1.5 pounds. 2 oz triggers were made by R.W. Hart and by Remington. The 2 oz trigger could also be called a "Walker" since he designed it too. Walker published instructions for converting standard triggers to 2 oz and many gunsmiths converted Remington triggers this way. I know Dennis, Nobby, and I, did so.
 
What can you do to get the most out of your walker or xmark triggers?
Do you guys replace the weight spring?
Grind back the sear?
Seems like gunsmithing wizards can get them safely down below where I can.
 
I can typically get my Walkers down to a hair below 2 pounds. !.5 pounds is something I can't quite get to yet with Walkers.



What can you do to get the most out of your walker or xmark triggers?
Do you guys replace the weight spring?
Grind back the sear?
Seems like gunsmithing wizards can get them safely down below where I can.
 
What can you do to get the most out of your walker or xmark triggers?
Do you guys replace the weight spring?
Grind back the sear?
Seems like gunsmithing wizards can get them safely down below where I can.

Old style triggers are easy... some as low as a pound but 1.5 to 2 pounds is more reliable.

On the new triggers I take them apart, lightly (very lightly - just bump them against the wheel) buff the sear surfaces with a soft 400 grit wheel, then on a 555 black wheel, then assemble with a lighter spring and adjust engagement and weight. Some of them work great after that (2 pounds usually) ... some of them don't and require more sear work.
 
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Thanks guntech
Do you find that the new x marks trigger weight increases after you put it on safety then off compared to just cocking it? I do.
 
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