Difference between 870 Express & 870 Police

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Hi,

could someone please tell me the differences between the Remington 870 express 18" and the Remington 870 Police model?


Thanks
 
I'm no expert, but from what I've read, there's a big difference..

Aside from the furniture:

Police has a more durable finish.
Police has an aluminium trigger guard vs. plastic on Express.
Police has much better fit and finish.
Police has ghost ring sights vs. rifle sights on the 18" Express.

Police is ~$1000
Express is ~$380
 
Here ya go:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1370235&postcount=44

And not all Police models come with Ghost Rings. Many models have either a front bead only or rifle sights. And they don't cost $1000. Except for the P-MAX which comes with a SureFire 618 forend. I just bought a brand spankin' new 870P w/ 18" barrel, ghost rings and synthetic stocks from a dealer and paid $650. So the pricing of the P models is more in line with the Wingmasters, but so is the quality.
 
i really like these two... marine mag is my choice.
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If you prefer the Marine Magnum wait for the Model XCS Marine Magnum. It has the TriNyte Corrosion Control System which is matte blue instead of that cheesey nickel exterior which makes it look like a pimp gun.
 
ghg55 said:
Hi,

could someone please tell me the differences between the Remington 870 express 18" and the Remington 870 Police model?


Thanks
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The Police is of Wingmaster quality with some added tactical features, depending on model. And the Express........well its just an express. Fully functional, but with a little use, the exterior finish is sure to go. The action on the express is not as slick either. Go to any store that carries both and work the actions.
 
Covey Ridge said:
If you prefer the Marine Magnum wait for the Model XCS Marine Magnum. It has the TriNyte Corrosion Control System which is matte blue instead of that cheesey nickel exterior which makes it look like a pimp gun.
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You say that like it's a bad thing!

The photos don't do'em justice. I walked into a store looking for an Express Synthetic 18", and after five minutes of drooling and fondling the Marine Magnum trashed my budget :).

Great gun, IMHO.
 
rdelliott said:
You say that like it's a bad thing!

The photos don't do'em justice. I walked into a store looking for an Express Synthetic 18", and after five minutes of drooling and fondling the Marine Magnum trashed my budget :).

Great gun, IMHO.
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Your right! The Marine Magnum is a great gun and there is no contest between the express syn and the MM, and if I were to do the fondle test, between those two, that is the one I would choose, but the new MM has one basic improvement. They now offer an Xtreme Conditions finish in a variety of colors. For me I do not prefer the 'dude' look of the nickel finished gun.:)
 
The finish on the metal and stock. Mechanically they're identical.
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Ummm...no they are not.

Hasbin said:
Here is a list of differences between standard Express and Police model that I lifted from another site. How about some comments on how the Norinco stands up to this same list? I believe some of these 'enhancements' are already included, aren't they?

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To our customers in Law Enforcement, Military, Corrections, and Security, whose lives depend upon the unfailing performance of Remington shotguns, the Police modifications are of paramount importance. Synopses of the variances are provided below.

• 870 Police shotguns go thru a special 23 station check list – ranging from visual inspection, functional testing, test firing, and final inspection.

• All Police shotguns are assembled in a “special build area” at the plant in Ilion, NY. This section is secured and serves only to build LE and Military shotguns, with the same factory personnel working at that assignment each shift.

• All parts that enter the “special build area” are visually inspected by hand to ensure top quality and functionality.

• Due to heavy recoil in buck and slug loads, all 870 Police guns have a longer magazine spring which ensures positive feed and function.

• A heavier sear spring is used to generate a reliable, positive trigger pull between 5 and 8 lbs.

• A heavier carrier dog spring is used to ensure when the carrier elevates the shell, it will be held there until the bolt can push it into the chamber. This ensures positive feeding when using heavier payload rounds.

• Police shotguns do not have an ISS (Integrated Safety System) which is a locking mechanism on the safety of commercial shotguns. This type of locking mechanism can cause delay to an officer who needs the weapon but does not have the appropriate key. LE shotguns have the standard, proven, cross bolt safety.

• The fore-end on the Express model is longer and not compatible with many police shotgun vehicle racks.

• The Police shotguns utilize the heavy duty SPEEDFEED Stocks and Fore-ends.

• The Express model will not allow for the addition of an extension tube without physical modification to the tube and barrel, which can nullify the warranty.

• The Express model has a BEAD BLAST BLUE finish while the Police models utilize either High Luster bluing or Parkerization.

• The Express model utilizes a synthetic trigger housing while the Police models use a compressed metal housing.

• The Police shotgun barrel is locked down with a “ball detent” system in conjunction with the magazine cap vs. a lesser grade “synthetic magazine spring retainer” lock down as used on the Express system.

• The receivers used in Police guns are “vibra honed” to smooth out rough finishes and remove burrs before parkerization or bluing.

• Police shotguns use machined ejectors and extractors, as opposed to powdered metal cast which are utilized on the Express models.
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i own a marine magnum in nickel and it is great.ya ya bling blingbut i tell ya is so smooth to cycle though as compared to any other 870 i have shot.i wonder if the nitrate stuff will cycle as good also.i believe it has to do with how slick the nickel finish is.but anyone that has shot mine has said it is so smooth.anyways i love it bling or not oh well.
 
Bling-bling" (usually shortened to simply "bling") is a hip hop slang term which refers to elaborate jewelry and other accoutrements, and also to a lifestyle built around excess spending and ostentation.

not only limited to gold
 
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Calum said:
BTW Bling is gold, not Nickle. :D

I personally like the nickle finish. :)
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I've always liked the Marine Magnum but one big factor always made me decide to give them a miss...you're limited to the one barrel unless you want a two tone gun. The modular nature of the 870 with the many available barrels means why limit yourself?
 
The list has to be somewhat ammended...

- Newer production 870 Express Shotguns do not have the ISS lock on them (in fact, IIRC Remington phased them out in the last year or so).

- If you get one of the 18" Express Synthetics that comes with the factory +2 extension already installed, you'll find that you have an "old style" magazine tube without the standard Express "dimples". All you need to do is remove the barrel clamp and extension parts (extension and spring) and replace them with a new standard spring, old style spring retainer cup, and an old style magazine cap.

- The barrels on the above model come with the ball detent on them as well.

Other than that, the list still stands...

Cheers,
hsld.
 
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