Difference between Lee Pacesetter and Lee Ultimate Dies (308)?

[Diablo9845]

I'm looking at starting to reload for 308. Will be loading for both a Savage 10TR and a M305. I was looking at the Lee Pacesetter dies as my dad has an extra Lee Collet Neck Sizing die I could have. I'm a little confused as to the difference between the Pacesetter set and Ultimate sets though. As far as I can tell, the only difference is the addition of the collet die in the ultimate set. Is this correct? Some sources say the Pacesetter comes with a standard seating die and others say a "Dead Set Seating Length Die".

Since I'm reloading for both a semi and a bolt, I like how it comes with a FL and my dads neck sizing die, but also the factory crimp die for semi. Eventually I will probably pick up a Forster Match seating die but for the time being I'm sure my reloads will outshoot my skill!

Thanks in advance!

 

[yomomma]

You need to full length resize for the M305. Do not use the collet die.

 

[Diablo9845]

The Pacesetter comes with a FL die. And I also have the collet. I guess I'm just wondering if there is any difference between the seating die?

 

[supernova]

No difference, they both come with the dead length seating die.

 

[BigRobb]

Same dies minus the shell holder.

 

[Diablo9845]

Awesome. So since I already have the collet die, I basically have the ultimate set and you guys just saved me $35! Thanks!