Dillon 550B VS Dillon 650

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my good friend uses and has recommended a Dillon 550B for reloading. I am in the USA (North Dakota for a few days from Winnipeg) and wanted to buy that unit but they are sold out all over N Dakota.
They do have a Dillon 650 though. My friend is away hunting so I can't ask him if I should buy this 650 Dillon. The important thing is that my friend is an expert at reloading and will guide me through the process as I am a novice. As I said he has used a 550 for many years and he will guide me through the loading process with his previous measurements.

Should I get the 650 as the price for that upgraded unit will be about the same as a 550 shipped to me in Winnipeg? Would this unit have the same powder load specs etc as the 550 so I could transfer my friends advice to this machine or should I just have a 550 shipped to me? I am a novice loader.
Thanks for any advice. I will be in N Dakota until Monday Oct 10, 2011
 
what he said.

the 650 all the way.

once set up correctly, you're good for 600 rounds an hour.

get the powder alarm for station 3, the case feeder,and you're good to go.

if you reload for different pistols of the same caliber, i suggest the micrometric redding seater die. it's faster when you need to change the coal for different chambers.the dillon seater hasn't any grades stamped on the die, it takes more time to find the right adjustement, whereas the redding has a micrometric adjustement and is graded..
 
550 is a 4 station manually indexed press..
The 650 is a 5 station auto indexing press.. But the 650 is sorta useless without a casefeeder.. it would be like a Porsche with a lawnmower engine
 
Thanks. Would my friend who uses the 550 be able to use his measurements and advice for me on the 650?
 
Get the 650. The caliber changes are a bit more than the 550. So buy all the pistol caliber conversion kits you will need down there. Buy a case feeder. Buy an alarm for your powder level check in the case. Don't buy a powder level alarm for the powder reservoir its right in front of your face when reloading. Get a 650 parts kit. The roller handle is a nice feature if your producing a large amount of ammo. Some people like the strong mount, but I don't use one. Check to see if it comes with a primer alarm or not. If not get one. Buy extra primer tubes, at least 5 or 6 of each, large and small. I have 15 large and 15 small. Buy the set up video.

I love my 2 Dillon XL650's. One in 9mm and the other in 45acp. I hope I haven't forgotten anything.
 
Bear.23 ... so you don't like the Porsche 914 ... :)

I am very new to reloading, but am an avid supporter of the 550.

Cheaper for the calibre changes.

You can get a case feeder for it to now.

I only reload for 30 mintues at a time, but can get between 225-250 in that time.

I would get a low primer alarm, but agree with tigrr about the low powder level alarm.

I have been told of issues around the 650 with primer seating and auto indexing. You can read about them on the Dillno Forum.

Either way, like me and many others, you will find that one press is just not enough! I am in the process of getting a single stage too :)
 
ASTRYX said:
Bear.23 ... so you don't like the Porsche 914 ... :)

I am very new to reloading, but am an avid supporter of the 550.

Cheaper for the calibre changes.

I have been told of issues around the 650 with primer seating and auto indexing. You can read about them on the Dillno Forum.QUOTE]

i reload with my 650 since 3 years, never had an issue with the priming system, nor the auto indexing..??!!:confused:

best place to learn how to set-up the 650 correctly is on BRIAN ENOS forum. there's plenty of infos on every element of the 650 and the small gremlins that can be encountered by NEW users..

regarding the priming system, sole thing to check out is the alignement of the primer disc VS the primer punch,and naturally , the recurrent problem that is federal primers VS federal cases ( for pistol ).

i've found that federal primers seats well in any case brand, exepting federal and sellier bellot.

their primer pockets are somehow tighter in specs, combined with the softer nature of the federal primers , it,s just a no go to me. otherwise, winchester primers are mandatory when reloading in federal brass, no problems there.

also there's an alignement tool that dillon can send you for free, i've got it but never had to use it, setting up the primer disc versus the primer punch can be achieved easy without it.
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I single stage reload for 6.5x55, .270,7mm RM, 30-30, 45-70, .357 mag and .40 and I'm going to buy a dillon when I can here soon. I'll buy a 550 but I really want a 650.. it's a hot rod of a progressive press :)
 
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